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Dixieland Jazz

Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 12:38 am
by SFA Tubajack
Greetings Tubenetters!

I've found that I really enjoy listening to Dixieland jazz but I'm not to familiar with any groups. Anyone have a suggestion or two that I should listen too? Also, I'm toying with the idea of getting a group of friends together and actually playing some music. Are there any places to buy charts or do most groups create their own? I'm ok with either, I just want to play some jazz!

Cheers,
Chris

Re: Dixieland Jazz

Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 1:13 am
by TubadudeCA
SFA Tubajack wrote:Greetings Tubenetters!

I've found that I really enjoy listening to Dixieland jazz but I'm not to familiar with any groups. Anyone have a suggestion or two that I should listen too? Also, I'm toying with the idea of getting a group of friends together and actually playing some music. Are there any places to buy charts or do most groups create their own? I'm ok with either, I just want to play some jazz!

Cheers,
Chris
Amazing isn't it?! I would highly recommend you take a journey to YouTube and look up the following:

The Proffesors
The Black Dog Jazz Band
Uptown Lowdown
Glenn Crytzer and "The Syncopaters"
Bria Skonberg
Eddie Erickson
The Big Momma Sue Quartet.
Lee "Westy" Westenhoffer (For the best Dixiland Tuba Playing around!)

Also take a peak at SacjazzCamp(dot)Org It's a Dixieland Jazz Camp for Adults and Youths (respective camps for both, a week apart) held in Pollock Pines, CA every summer and is open to all levels of musicians!! If you want to jump into playing, that's a great place to do it! I attended last year and had a BLAST. Their website also has thousands of lead sheets and transcribed solos. You may need the password and username (if you do, let me know) but it's a great place to check out.

If you want to get a group together, DO IT! You won't regret it. :tuba:

Re: Dixieland Jazz

Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 1:18 am
by ken k
matt Perrine and Sunflower city...neo-dixieland.
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http://www.amazon.com/Sunflower-City-Ma ... B002F88OMQ" target="_blank

Re: Dixieland Jazz

Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 1:36 am
by eupher61
Turk Murphy's San Francisco Jazz Band
Original Salty Dogs
Red Lehr--St Louis Rivermen (THE legend of sousaphone players, and has a darn good butcher shop which he says his sons now are in charge of, but...)
find anything with Dave Gannett (Black Dogs)
find Jon Gross in YouTube stuff from New Orleans
Firehouse 5+2
South Frisco Jazz Band

Unfortunately, a lot of bands use bass fiddle or, *shudder* electric bass.

Re: Dixieland Jazz

Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 1:37 am
by TubadudeCA
eupher61 wrote: Unfortunately, a lot of bands use bass fiddle or, *shudder* electric bass.
+1

I can live with Bass Fiddle... but electric bass?? Now that's a sin. :evil:

Re: Dixieland Jazz

Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 7:26 am
by SFA Tubajack
Thanks guys!

I have Dave Gannett's Tubas From Hell CD and it is awesome! I'll definitely go check out the others listed.

Cheers,
Chris

Re: Dixieland Jazz

Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 10:59 am
by PaulTkachenko
+1 to playing by ear. It also opens up your ears to a whole bunch of other things that are going on ...

Re: Dixieland Jazz

Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 11:25 am
by SFA Tubajack
I wholeheartedly agree to playing by ear Bloke! I've been playing guitar for nearly 10 years and have learned almost completely by ear. I really enjoy just sitting around and improvising on tuba, bass, guitar, or whatever I may have.

Also, +1 to the Dukes of Dixieland! Good stuff!


Cheers,

Chris

Re: Dixieland Jazz

Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 1:30 pm
by scottw
+1 on anything the Dukes put out in the 50's through about 1970 or so. Terrific stuff.

The group [and, specifically, the tuba player] who had the most profound influence on me and any success I ever had with Dixieland was The Dixieland Rhythm Kings, led by tubist Gene Mayl. I don't know if you can find much today from this group, but it's worth your effort to try. They were contemporary with the Dukes but not so well known. I literally wore out my favorite 33 1/3rd record of theirs, "TheDRK's in Hi-Fi". I wish I had that album on CD now, but it is very scarce. ****Alert: anyone have it? I would love to hear from you!*** Gene Mayl laid down some of the finest tuba lines I have ever heard to this day and the rest of the band was excellent, too.
Scottw

Re: Dixieland Jazz

Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 2:18 pm
by tbn.al
This may help you Scott.

http://www.amazon.com/The-Original-Dixi ... B001BUAWE2" target="_blank

Re: Dixieland Jazz

Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 5:16 pm
by scottw
tbn.al wrote:This may help you Scott.

http://www.amazon.com/The-Original-Dixi ... B001BUAWE2" target="_blank" target="_blank
Thanks, Al. I had not heard of that original collection before. Unfortunately, I have neither a record player nor any vinyl left. I keep trying to find CD replacements for my favorite stuff. Under that recording, there was a for-sale list that included "DRK in Hi-Fi", the album I am trying so hard to replace. It, too, was on vinyl and would cost $53., which I just can't justify spending. I'll keep looking!

Re: Dixieland Jazz

Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 6:45 pm
by David Richoux
There is a good compromise available between reading commercial charts and trying to learn everything by ear - get a good "Dixie fake book" - there are several available in music stores and a few on-line distributors. This gives you the melody, sometimes the verse, chord changes, and often the lyrics. I have seen some books that favor flat keys (for brasswinds) or sharps (for strings) in the charts.

I started out in a Lu Watters/Turk Murphy SF style band - we had authorized (paid for) copies of the Watters charts and I had a lot of their recordings to get me going - it was a steep learning curve, but all of that material really helped. For all of the other songs we did, the fake book was sufficient.

Re: Dixieland Jazz

Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 12:11 am
by Art Hovey
Although I personally prefer to play dixieland by ear ( see http://galvanizedjazz.com/ ) I have written a lot of charts for my youth bands ( see http://greatctjazz.org/Sugarfoot/ ).

Because I am a tuba player my arrangements have tuba parts that are slightly more interesting than the ones in most commercially available ones, but still simple enough for high school kids.

PM me if you're interested.

Re: Dixieland Jazz

Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 12:37 am
by tubahero300
Buck Creek is my grandfathers favorite group. they are good too

Re: Dixieland Jazz

Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2012 8:21 am
by Z-Tuba Dude
scottw wrote:+1 on anything the Dukes put out in the 50's through about 1970 or so. Terrific stuff.

The group [and, specifically, the tuba player] who had the most profound influence on me and any success I ever had with Dixieland was The Dixieland Rhythm Kings, led by tubist Gene Mayl. I don't know if you can find much today from this group, but it's worth your effort to try. They were contemporary with the Dukes but not so well known. I literally wore out my favorite 33 1/3rd record of theirs, "TheDRK's in Hi-Fi". I wish I had that album on CD now, but it is very scarce. ****Alert: anyone have it? I would love to hear from you!*** Gene Mayl laid down some of the finest tuba lines I have ever heard to this day and the rest of the band was excellent, too.
Scottw
Is this the album you are referring to?
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Re: Dixieland Jazz

Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2012 10:23 am
by scottw
Z-Tuba Dude wrote:
scottw wrote:+1 on anything the Dukes put out in the 50's through about 1970 or so. Terrific stuff.

The group [and, specifically, the tuba player] who had the most profound influence on me and any success I ever had with Dixieland was The Dixieland Rhythm Kings, led by tubist Gene Mayl. I don't know if you can find much today from this group, but it's worth your effort to try. They were contemporary with the Dukes but not so well known. I literally wore out my favorite 33 1/3rd record of theirs, "TheDRK's in Hi-Fi". I wish I had that album on CD now, but it is very scarce. ****Alert: anyone have it? I would love to hear from you!*** Gene Mayl laid down some of the finest tuba lines I have ever heard to this day and the rest of the band was excellent, too.
Scottw
Is this the album you are referring to?
Image
Yes! That is the one. My cover is still intact, but the thing is played out [when I used to have a player]. I'm still looking for a decent CD copy, though.

Re: Dixieland Jazz

Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 6:50 pm
by Bob Bigalard
Louis Armstrong and his hot 7.
Recording reccomendation: Weary Blues