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Hi there,
is the new " LOUD 12 M" mouthpiece just a copy of the old LOUD 12 just with different appearence from the outside?
I played one of the older models (Matt Perrine´s one) and I really liked it. So I ordered a new one from LOUD. With the one I got I realize it has an "airy" sound. I didn t notice that when I was trying out Matt´s . Don´t get me wrong , I really do like how the new LOUD I bought feels playing just the " air" in the sound disturbs me a little. thanks

Is there something else except " long tones" to reduce the air-sound ?How do you guys do it when you use this Mourthpiece? Somebody mentioned it in another threat that you have to learn how to play with this odd mouthpiece?

I will let the guys who use this model regularly chime in, but my experience with it was that it required a completely different approach to attacks . Restraint was the order as it was extremely easy to over blow-
I struggled to find " my sound " , and it wasnt a learning curve that I cared to push through .
I suspect that the reward in using this particular design was out there , but I chose not to persue... would only consider this with my sousaphone , when outdoors and loud was the order of the day !

I tried the LM-12 once and just didn't like the quality of the sound. I have listened to guys that use it and I have come to think they just want to sound more like a bass trombone than a tuba.

Hi,
I don't know if you're interested but Dave Houser, a sponsor here, (http://www.housermouthpiece.net/)and I believe the original maker of the Loud Mouthpieces is producing them under the name Mouthpiece Ordnance. The mouthpiece in question here is called the Mk-12.

I had a one piece LM-12 for a while; since it didn't do anything that my PT48 couldn't do I sold it. I'm tending towards thinking it's just marketing and nothing actually different. Since it was technically quite shallow it might have been a good tuba-players-mouthpiece mouthpiece for cimbasso or something. I didn't have my slide contra at the time I owned the mouthpiece.