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Postby Will » Fri Apr 09, 2004 12:57 am

I am planning on having my 9 year old Yamaha 321 euphonium cleaned, polished, and possibly have the lead pipe replaced to fit a large shank mouthpiece. Has anyone on here had this done? I've also heard of just changing the receiver. Does this have the same effect? I know it's a lot cheaper. I am primarily a tuba player so even though the horn plays great, I feel like I need something more open. Thank you for any advice.
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Postby schlepporello » Fri Apr 09, 2004 1:02 am

A good friend of mine wanted to use his bass bone mouthpiece in his euphonium. Same problem, the receiver was too small. Solution: his son is a machinist. His son turned the shank of the mouthpiece down to fit the receiver. It works just fine.
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Postby Guest » Fri Apr 09, 2004 1:22 am

The Yamaha YEP-321 mouthpipe is reasonably large, and the stock small shank receiver on that instrument is actually quite a severe "step down" from the mouthpipe tube.

A Weril receiver (available from a DEG dealer / low cost) will fit a Yamaha 'pipe just fine. As far as "used" parts is concerned, I think I have a few Besson "English shank" tuba mouthpiece receivers in a drawer - which are actually the same size as "large shank" trombone/euphonium*.

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Postby euphdude » Fri Apr 09, 2004 8:53 am

When I first switched to the euphonium, I desired to have a decent instrument to be used in outdoor gigs where I didn't want to damage my beloved YEP-642S. I got a 321S and had a 642S leadpipe put on the 321. It was a fabulous instrument. Too bad I couldn't get used to the four valve in line on top setup. So I sold it.

Since I did that conversion, Todd Clontz in Baltimore has developed the technology to convert the stock receivers into anything you want.
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Postby Chuck(G) » Fri Apr 09, 2004 11:08 am

euphdude wrote:When I first switched to the euphonium, I desired to have a decent instrument to be used in outdoor gigs where I didn't want to damage my beloved YEP-642S. I got a 321S and had a 642S leadpipe put on the 321. .


Are you certain it was a 642 leadpipe and not a 621? The 621 has the same bore size as the 321, but has a bass shank receiver on the leadpipe and is a 3+1 instrument.
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Postby euphdude » Fri Apr 09, 2004 1:01 pm

Are you certain it was a 642 leadpipe and not a 621? The 621 has the same bore size as the 321, but has a bass shank receiver on the leadpipe and is a 3+1 instrument.


Actually, I'm not completely certain. I asked for the 642 leadpipe/receiver from Chuck Levins and I took the part they ordered for me to Todd Clontz for installation which he did. It may have been the 621 receiver/leadpipe.
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Postby Will » Fri Apr 09, 2004 4:25 pm

I will probably go with getting a new receiver installed. How much does a reciever cost? Yamaha or Weril (from a previous suggestion).
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Postby euphdude » Sat Apr 10, 2004 8:25 am

I will probably go with getting a new receiver installed. How much does a reciever cost? Yamaha or Weril (from a previous suggestion).


Although I actually bought a new Yamaha receiver that would accept the large shank mouthpieces, I mentioned in my first post that this is no longer necessary. Todd Clontz has developed the technology to change whatever you have right now into whatever you want. He changed a Willson 2900S for me from the stock European shank receiver to the large shank receiver. It was a flawless job and he charged me all of $40 to do it. It looked just like a factory job!
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