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Ups and Downs of switching from F to Eb

Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 4:00 pm
by Whammo
Perhaps the wrong place for this topic but since it may turn into a trade somewhere down the line, I thought I'd post here. I currently play a HB 12 4/4 F tuba. As an older guy I've always avoided this switch to Eb but the more I mull this over, I'm thinking the change might be a good thing.

My horn has a pretty good low C but not as good as an Eb. Would some you that have made this switch please offer some insight? Did you fight fingerings for a long time? If you had it to do over, would you still switch?

Thanks ahead of time for your comments. :)

Re: Ups and Downs of switching from F to Eb

Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 6:29 pm
by mark38655
I started learning Eb after I turned 40 and it was very challenging. Unfortunately for me, I was in my mid 30' when I learned F and 40 when I started to learn CC. That of course isn't a very good way to do it.

That being said, I do belief that Eb is the most versatile for solo and small ensemble playing. (The contra Bass tuba could be used mostly for large ensemble playing.)

Re: Ups and Downs of switching from F to Eb

Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 7:57 pm
by tubabuddha
i just switched over to Eb last november after 4 years of F playing. I'm in Grad school right now. It was a headache for a little bit to switch over to a new set of fingerings and switching around how to play certain notes. But Eb is a very good solo/small ensemble horn. Sounds great in a quintet. At least as far as my opinion goes.

Re: Ups and Downs of switching from F to Eb

Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 8:00 pm
by TheHatTuba
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Re: Ups and Downs of switching from F to Eb

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 9:33 am
by bill
I started on Eb 64 years ago, spent 4 years on that, switched to BBb for 40+ year and picked up an F and then went back to Eb/BBb and finally got a CC 5 years ago. I use them all in Orchestra work but, if I had to settle for one horn it would be difficult and the choice would be between a M/W 182 and a WIllson 3400. As I age, I am more an more comfortable with the 182 because of its weight (or lack). The low register is not a problem on either Bass tuba but I spent several years (yes, YEARS ) working on low register studies to develop a decent low register on either bass tuba. I also learned to use a deep bowl mouthpiece on either but I use a fairly narrow rim (30.5 mm). I still take out the contrabass tubas, from tine to time but not because I want more volume or "depth" of sound. Mostly it happens when I have used a contrabass before on the particular piece of music.

Re: Ups and Downs of switching from F to Eb

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 8:19 pm
by Alex C
I will go out on a limb and say that, for an older person, learning Eb tuba fingerings is like learning a foreign language, it's more difficult with age (brain plasticity). I did switch to Eb for quintet for a while. After one concert the horn player said I was playing three different fingerings for any note I produced. I played it for ten years before I went back to F.

With the options in tubas now, I agree with TheHat, you can find an F or Eb that will do what you want. Stick with F but maybe you need a tuba with a more favorable low range.