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Now that I am a semi-retired teacher, I have begun taking lessons again and am working on the the Bordogni Bel Canto Studies. I thought that I knew the difference between slur and phrasing marks (since I am a world-class know-it-all), but it seems my teacher and I are at odds. Are the Bordogni etudes all slurred, specifically #1, or are those phrase marks? Apart from these being good for me, I want to make certain that I am playing them correctly.

The improvement in my playing the past six weeks (with plenty more to go) has paid great dividends. Lots of cheats and bad playing habits have crept in since 1975.

Depends on what you want to work on:

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Phrased, not slurred, IMO. that doesn't mean articulate heavily, though.

These are prase markings but you can play them with various articulations. Approach each prase with a begining middle and an end. First thing to do is look for the high point within each prase, the high point is where all the other notes want to revolve around. The next step is to look for any sub or micro phrases with the lasrger phrased to bring out as much detail as possible. Most of the Bordogni phrases run in pairs, like a Question and answer then they run in groups of 4. Groups of 4 give a larger statment like a paragraph and should have a high point within the group. You can slur them or articulate them depending on the style but most should be slurred. When approaching these, think of them as a scullpture and you are making a piece of art with as much detail as possible.

mctuba1 wrote:These are prase markings but you can play them with various articulations. Approach each prase with a begining middle and an end. First thing to do is look for the high point within each prase, the high point is where all the other notes want to revolve around. The next step is to look for any sub or micro phrases with the lasrger phrased to bring out as much detail as possible. Most of the Bordogni phrases run in pairs, like a Question and answer then they run in groups of 4. Groups of 4 give a larger statment like a paragraph and should have a high point within the group. You can slur them or articulate them depending on the style but most should be slurred. When approaching these, think of them as a scullpture and you are making a piece of art with as much detail as possible.

Good stuff here... If you approach these with the Tabuteau analysis, you can really milk the music out of these.

Thank you, my brothers, for the assistance.

Must add the Tabuteau book to my list of reads.

Jeopardymaster: The Tabuteau book is more a historical story with some of the methodology for line analysis. Sound in motion is perhaps more instructional. I own both. I find both relevant.

Ben wrote:Jeopardymaster: The Tabuteau book is more a historical story with some of the methodology for line analysis. Sound in motion is perhaps more instructional. I own both. I find both relevant.

Seconded