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Modern equivalent to Perantucci 9?

Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 3:09 pm
by elihellsten
At the moment I'm borrowing an old Perantucci 9-mouthpiece from my teacher and I feel very at home with it. Is there a modern version of the same mouthpiece, and what is it called?

Thanks in advance

Re: Modern equivalent to Perantucci 9?

Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 3:14 pm
by TheHatTuba
Pretty sure its the pt64

Re: Modern equivalent to Perantucci 9?

Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 4:31 pm
by ckalaher1
PT-64 is what the old PT-9 is reffered to, I'm pretty sure.

Re: Modern equivalent to Perantucci 9?

Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 5:48 pm
by JB
elihellsten wrote:At the moment I'm borrowing an old Perantucci 9-mouthpiece from my teacher and I feel very at home with it. Is there a modern version of the same mouthpiece, and what is it called?

Thanks in advance
The "old" 9 is pretty much the "new" 64.

For a list of the old/new numbers, see "Perantucci Numbers New=Old" viewtopic.php?f=4&t=41237&p=358357&hili ... er#p358357

Re: Modern equivalent to Perantucci 9?

Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2012 6:03 am
by elihellsten
Thanks!

Re: Modern equivalent to Perantucci 9?

Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2012 8:56 am
by EdFirth
Rather than "Pretty sure's and Pretty much's" why don't you contact Dan Perantoni or Bob Tucci and ask one of them?

Re: Modern equivalent to Perantucci 9?

Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2012 12:27 pm
by eupher61
It is the new 64, but the design is not quite the same in practice.

Re: Modern equivalent to Perantucci 9?

Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2012 5:44 pm
by Bove
An old Perantucci 9 is the same as a modern Bruno Tilz 9, or a modern Rudy Meinl 9 (RM9).

Re: Modern equivalent to Perantucci 9?

Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2012 6:55 pm
by elihellsten
Bove wrote:An old Perantucci 9 is the same as a modern Bruno Tilz 9, or a modern Rudy Meinl 9 (RM9).
Are you certain? Thanks alot anyway! Very interesting. Which of the Bruno Tilz-series is the 9 in? I can't seem to find it on their website. http://www.mundstueckbau-tilz.de/" target="_blank

Re: Modern equivalent to Perantucci 9?

Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2012 7:16 pm
by cambrook
It's in the "B-Tuba" section, and then in "B.Tilz Nea / 310"

The Rudy Meinl RM9 is the same as the Tilz 310-M 9 .
While the Perantucci M9 (and maybe early PT64?) was the same, the modern PT-64 is different. Personally I prefer the Tilz or Rudy.

Re: Modern equivalent to Perantucci 9?

Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2012 11:58 am
by Lee Stofer
The re-designed Perantucci mouthpieces are just that - re-designed. I am no fan of heavyweight mouthpieces, and the newer Perantucci mouthpieces are heavier than the original Bruno Tilz designs. I like the old-style 9, as it is very lively and can make even a less-than-great F-tuba come alive.

The original Perantucci 9 was a re-branded Bruno Tilz series 310-M9. We in the US think of this as a fine F-tuba mouthpiece, but at the Tilz website, you'll find that they consider it a shallow-cup B-tuba mouthpiece.

The Bruno Tilz 310 series mouthpieces were also branded at one time as stock Meinl-Weston, Hirsbrunner, and Rudolf Meinl mouthpieces. Rudolf Meinl is the only one that still does this. I find that the Rudolf Meinl RM-9 is better-finished than the Bruno Tilz M-9, so I order them regularly. This is my all-time favorite European F-tuba mouthpiece.

Re: Modern equivalent to Perantucci 9?

Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2012 1:26 pm
by GC
I use a RM-9 that I bought from Lee. It's a great piece for Eb tuba, too. Nice round sound with both a little fat and nice brightness. Slots well. Comfortable rim and cup size.