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Re: Hetman 8
Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 1:25 pm
by jsmn4vu
It's pretty solid in its little tub. I consider it a sticky grease.
Re: Hetman 8
Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 2:29 pm
by rmontgomery
I use Hetman 8 and Hetman 9. Hard for me to describe Hetman 8 - but I would call it thick and sticky. Hetman 9 is even thicker. I like the Hetman grease. I end up using the 9 more than the 8 because my slides are loose and if they don't have enough grease on them will fall out on the stage when I'm backstage screwing around while the rest of the orchestra is rehearsing.
Randy Montgomery
Re: Hetman 8
Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 3:21 pm
by knarfman
I use Hetman 8, and would describe it as more like thick vaseline, rather than "sticky". OTOH, Hetman 9 really is sticky (tacky), and forms strings like Mozzarella when you pull it apart. I use #9 on my euph's second valve slide, which is both very short and slightly loose.
Re: Hetman 8
Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 9:43 pm
by Lee Stofer
I use Hetman #8 Tuning Slide Grease on 99.8% of the instruments that come through my shop. It is yellowish and looks a bit like lanolin, but is quite different. It is not goopy, but doesn't dry-out, either. It is typically sold in small jars, which would last a trumpeter a lifetime, but might do a tuba two or three times. However, the grease is long-lasting-enough that one jar is probably a 2-year supply, even for a tuba player.
I use the #7 Slide Gel for only a couple of specific applications. The #9 Ultra Slide Grease is like using white caulking, as it will hold any slide in place, no matter how loose it was. I mainly use #9 on the connection for the valveset into the body of a fiberglass sousaphone. It will not dry out or become brittle, and it helps the joint to seal very tightly, making a lot of fiberglass sousas sound a bit better than you might expect them to!
Re: Hetman 8
Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 12:09 pm
by TMurphy
LJV wrote:I used Hetman 8 for a very short time. It produced a thick yellow slime that migrated throughout my instruments. Very difficult to completely remove. I have heard others say that they DON'T have this problem and some have had the same experience. I only start using different greases when I give a horn a thorough cleaning, so it was NOT a mix of other products.
Side note: I recently tried Super Lube with OK results. BUT, the one I like the best is
Ultra Pure grease made out in Oregon.
http://www.ultrapureoils.com/ Very neutral and creates no conflicts with what ever valve oil I like to use on any particular horn (Blue Juice, Ultra Pure, etc.)
YMMV, may be void in Mississippi...

On the note of slime, I have noticed an occasional buildup of gunk, which based on various tubenet threads, I think may be a reaction between my valve oil (Hetman's Piston Oil), and my slide grease (plain ol' lanolin, which I bought in a huge tub). I've not tried Hetman 8, but I assume it plays well with other Hetman products? Can anyone comment on how it works, compared to lanolin? I know Lee said it looks like lanolin, but that it is different...can you (or anyone) explain? Would you recommend it on slides that are pulled frequently (my primary reason for using lanolin, I can thin it with oil to the consistency I want for various slides).
Thanks, and sorry for the thread hijack.