Tuba stand slippage

[Wayne Rice]

I have a Konig and Meyer tuba stand that I bought from WWBW that tends to sink a bit during performance. I understand that some have solved this problem by welding/soldering the stand in the desired position. Does anyone know how this is done specifically?

Is there any other way that anyone is aware of put this type of stand in a permanent position?

Also, is there a downside to doing this, other than the obvious fact that the stand will be more awkward to carry?

Thanks.

[JayW]

Well if you weld/solder it in place, it is going to be awkward if you have to sit in a chair that is not at the exact same height..... The stand works on friction..... it is my expereience if you "rough up" the area that is gripped you will create some more friction (some very low grit sand paper ought to do the trick)....and probably lessen/if not completely get rid of the slippage you have been expereiencing. I hope that makes sense, living here in the northeast I dont have much other than snow on my mind right now.

And, to those who read this, careful thought was used in my wording, to avoid a freudiant slip (pardon the pun)

[jtuba]

Pipe clamps work well to prevent slipping. You just have to carry a screwdriver for adjustments.

[CJ Krause]

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[Tom]

I bought a Weightlifter stand recently that had been tucked away in a back room of a music store. It's been great. Since these are not available any more <snip>
Doc

I have a Weightlifter that I'd sell...purchased recently, and like yours it was basically new-old-stock (NOS). In basically like new shape and with the carrying case.

[manatee]

The DEG stand did not work for me. It went back to the store in a week. It is remarkable that they are able to sell this thing when it doesn't do what is supposed to do, that being hold a tuba in place.

[scottw]

I've never had a problem such as this in the year and a half I've used the K&M stand. I do make sure the wing nuts are tightened securely, though; maybe you are being too gentle? These beasts are awfully rugged, so hoss on the nuts a bit. Also, you might try raising the leg carriage a bit instead of the telescoping tube at the top.

[Wilco]

I made my own stand from an old trombone stand. I removed the top ball and replaced it with a wooden block (drilled a hole halfway through it). It worked great but - as expected - the rods of the t- bone stand are thin and it slipped quite often, no matter how tight I srewed the nuts. I then took a piece of wood and sawed 4 even parts of 2 cm x 2 cm 1 cm, and drilled a hole through them. Now I can rest the top of the stand on the piece(s) of wood, and adjust the height by removing or adding a piece. Works for me...

[Douglas]

My teacher had another student with a stand slippage problem he said he set the stand at the height she needed it at, drilled a hole in it and stuck a metal pin in it. You can't adjust the height of it but it doesn’t slip anymore

Doug

[Mark]

I have a Konig and Meyer tuba stand that I bought from WWBW that tends to sink a bit during performance. I understand that some have solved this problem by welding/soldering the stand in the desired position. Does anyone know how this is done specifically?

Is there any other way that anyone is aware of put this type of stand in a permanent position?

Also, is there a downside to doing this, other than the obvious fact that the stand will be more awkward to carry?

Thanks.

In a rare fit of genius, I took my slipping K&M stand to Dan Oberloh. He fixed it in three minutes. It's really simple:

Remove the top shaft from the rest of the stand and then remove the plastic brake that presses against the shaft. Take a strip of emory cloth or very fine sandpaper and roughen the face of the plastic brake and the metal of the shaft where the brake presses. Reassemble. My stand has not slipped since.

[Captain Sousie]

A drum throne would be a good idea Doc. I wonder, if anyone has tried it an if so, if they work well at all.

[Tubadork]

PIPE CLAMP
cheap, easy, just make sure to bring a screwdriver

Bill Pritchard

[scottw]

so "hoss on the nuts" a bit

Do I have your permission to use this phrase? It is the funniest thing I've heard all week.

Doc

Permission granted! Surprised that it had to come from NJ instead of the great satate of Texas!
How about this one I heard today, totally unrelated to music, tuba or any other thing related to this board--I just like it: A terrorist is just a tyrant out of power.

[Tabor]

I have a DEG stand which I stopped using years ago when I noticed it slipping (and posture being affected). I thought about drilling holes through it and bringing along a bolt/nail or something of the sort but I just don't use it enough to warrant modification. I sure appreciated having it around, though, when I played a gig recovering from pneumonia.

-T

[ljdalen]

I spoke too Roger Lewis at WW&BW in early December because I am having trouble with the joints being loose on a DEG Tuba Rest. Apparently Alan Baer has the idea of using the drum throne as the rest. Take off the seat and cut down a piece of plywood to fit on the seat bracket. Add a piece of rubber as padding and cover with something like naughahyde.

I have received the drum thrown (double braced legs $39.00) and just need some time to get it modified. My intent is to cut down the platform rather than use another piece of plywood. Roger said it may be going to production if the details can be worked out.

Having a 1922 Holton Mammoth, it is well worth having a tuba rest with the relative unknown seating options that come up in performance.