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russiantuba wrote:Vibrato was easy on it

Phew! Always a deal-breaker =)

Sorry to flame. An otherwise useful review...

Interesting review.

I did try these horns and was more impressed with the 6/4 Bb than the 6/4 C.
It was more centered and the low register more open.

I praise Barth for his work at producing these fine instruments.

bloke wrote:Most all makers' great-big BBb's resonate better than most-all-makers' great-big CC's.

It's nearly always a trade-off between quickness-of-response/agility and resonance.

Last June I went to the Gene Porkorny Law Brass Seminar for one day just to sit in and watch and play a little. After the warm up session a couple of guys asked to try my big BBb Holton 345, so I allowed them to give it a test spin. After playing their big CC horns all week they loved how my big BBb felt and sounded. One guy remarked "that's how a contra-bass tuba should sound!" So like Joe says, everything is a trade-off...

Since I am a non-pro, symphonic/concert band geek, my BBb horn works just fine for me!

Good of Richard to help you out like this.

Heavy_Metal wrote:Good of Richard to help you out like this.

Yup. Dick is a "world class" guy.

DP wrote:

russiantuba wrote:I don't believe in world class tone.

Where did the "world-class sound" term come from anyways?

Wasn't there a new poster a while back who felt he had a "world-class" sound, everyone said so? I forget the kid's name.

DP wrote:

russiantuba wrote:I don't believe in world class tone.

Where did the "world-class sound" term come from anyways?

Prolly same place as German engineered, American heritage (made in asia) which would have to be (from all over the) World class....BullSvil!!!!!

[/quote] Where did the "world-class sound" term come from anyways?[/quote]

The first time I remember reading that term, in regards to tuba playing, was from the (then) T.U.B.A. Journal with highlights from the Lexington, KY ITEC. It was in the write-up of Gene's session.

I have heard him use it plenty in master classes and private lessons. When the participants hear "play that again, but this time with a world-class sound" and then try to make what they consider to be a world-class sound, there is always a change. It gets them away from thinking about "the low E is 234" or "I am going to have to be careful of this measure" or "I need to take a relaxed full breath". It gives them the freedom to let themselves create. The genius is in its simplicity. Is Gene the person who brought it into our lexicon? Who knows. I think the fact remains that it can be an effective motivator.

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Hi-
Nice pics of those of you at OSU and the Ohio Show...
Mark
PS. Have fun with horns in San Antonio at the Texas Show!
Great Stuff!
Mark

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