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Chinese tubas

Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2013 5:50 pm
by gvtuba
I am interested in getting advice on a couple of tubas. I am interested in the King 2341 clone and the e flat models. I have been told by a very reputable member that the valves on the King clone are better than the new King.

I am limited slightly in the lung capacity/volume area (at 66 that ain't all!) Are these horns easy to project? How about intonation, etc.

Thanks.

Re: Chinese tubas

Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2013 11:41 pm
by Dan Schultz
There's a 2341 clone?

Re: Chinese tubas

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 12:01 am
by Art Hovey
I tried a couple of them at the Army Tuba Conference. The main thing I noticed was that the leadpipe and receiver are angled differently. For me the real King is comfortable but the Chinese version has the mouthpiece lower but aiming uphill. Some people like that, but I find it very uncomfortable. If you are a short person and like to blow uphill you may like it.

Re: Chinese tubas

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 12:01 pm
by Bob Kolada
I much prefer the King over the 2341 copy. Jonathan's 1291 copy at Midwest was a very nice horn though. The Hirsbrunner copies are nice, maybe the best of the Bb's. There's one on here-
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Re: Chinese tubas

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 12:53 pm
by Rick Denney
Art Hovey wrote:I tried a couple of them at the Army Tuba Conference. The main thing I noticed was that the leadpipe and receiver are angled differently. For me the real King is comfortable but the Chinese version has the mouthpiece lower but aiming uphill. Some people like that, but I find it very uncomfortable. If you are a short person and like to blow uphill you may like it.
I found the same. Also, I didn't get the resonance that I'm accustomed to on the better Kings.

Bloke, it ain't patent infringement. There are no current patents on that design. In the world of wristwatches (where most patents ran their course decades ago), they'd use the term "homage" rather than "replica" or "fake". The original, though, isn't so expensive to warrant what one must give up to get the...homage.

Yes, we respect original design for its own sake. Sometimes we have to put our money where out mouth is to do so.

Rick "who'd rather have a real King, even if an old one to get to the right price point" Denney