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Toobalicious wrote:The third 6/4 CC by Sam Gnagey. Cerveny bell, Conn wrap, and King valves. Love it!
Just to clarify the components of this instrument: The bell is Cerveny, the branches are Martin, the valve cluster consists of 3 King valves and a Conn 4th valve. The rotor is Meinlschmidt.
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Here is another photo or two. The top is a king/York built by another member of TubeNet. It is a spectacular instrument. It is hanging out with a York Master fitted with an old Conn bell. (Thanks to Lee Stofer for that ferrule)

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Sam Gnagey wrote:
Toobalicious wrote:The third 6/4 CC by Sam Gnagey. Cerveny bell, Conn wrap, and King valves. Love it!
Just to clarify the components of this instrument: The bell is Cerveny, the branches are Martin, the valve cluster consists of 3 King valves and a Conn 4th valve. The rotor is Meinlschmidt.
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York bell and branches.
Walter Nirschl valve cluster
Starts out with a li'll larger bore than the original York (.709-.748)
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Beautiful horn Lectron!
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Thanks :-)
I sold it a year ago and soon realized. That was not one of my brightest moment.
Called him up some month later and said. IF you ever are to sell it, I'll take it back for the same price as you paid.

That time just arrived :tuba:
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Martin mammoth with Reynolds & a few other parts.
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^ Tabor, what is that? Looks entirely un-Frankentuba!
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Thanks all for sharing - there are some really cool horns here!

This is (to the best of my knowledge/understanding), a 1918 York 33 that was converted by Bob Rusk to a front-action CC. The original piston valves were replaced by a King 1240/2340 valve set, and 5th valve is likely a Meinl-Weston s-linkage era valve. Past the valve cluster, the bugle is from the original horn.
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This is the most involved project I have done, to date. It is an F tuba now. It was once several different things.

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It started as a banged up Conn Eb and spare parts.

has a nice scale. EDIT: after more play testing, it has since scale except for a particular range of 5 notes that are difficult to center. I suspect it spends too much time hanging around .750 bore so it is back to the drawing board for the running gear with a new, larger bugle.
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From FB: 5-valve CC with Conn bugle, King bell, and Weril valves. Belongs to someone in Brazil.
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Tabor wrote: It is made with parts from Conn, York, King, Cerveny, Jinbao, Reynolds, DEG, No name Czech donor, unbranded brass stock, Allied, probably others.
...and a wine cork! :tuba:
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bloke wrote:The 5th rotor was left in place, and the small-size main slide bore (.5mm larger than 6450) remained in place as well. The 6450 main slide crook was re-tapered slightly to meet up with the .5mm larger bore on the small side.

Doing that stuff (regardless of one's judgement of the *type* of sound) electrified the instrument...

...and yeah, I liked my hybrid (much of the same stuff, but with the original 2165/Holton-shaped bell PLUS an old 1990-vintage bell ring) better than that hybrid. Same "electricity"...just a bit more "jolly".
Did you get rid of your 2165, Joe? I remember it from when I used to come here a lot 4-5 years ago, but I've been fairly absent since.
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Here is the CC with "a few" mods.


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Interesting bracing there Tabor. It gives it a very "beefy" look. What were the donor parts on that one? I can see the King valves, what else did you use?
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Tubajug wrote:Interesting bracing there Tabor. It gives it a very "beefy" look. What were the donor parts on that one? I can see the King valves, what else did you use?
Grbic (york) and King bugle. The heavy 1 piece bracing is made from flat brass bar stock. The thumb paddle started as a silver fork & some brass rod from Tractor Supply.
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E flat.
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Yes, lots of pep, for sure!

Actually, I have contemplated putting a side-action set on a 15" bell Besson (or Boosey). Haven't found one suitable ($$) to me yet.
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roweenie wrote:E-flat York bugle, Conn 4J (.656) valve set, rotary 5th valve (.728), Yamaha 201 bell.

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I also have an original detachable upright York bell (18 1/2" diameter), but I find the Yamaha bell (17 1/2") gives a slightly more focused sound, especially in the register below low B flat.
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