My 1903 Conn Eb
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Re: Adding a 5th to my Eb
Very cool! I love your photo walk-throughs! I can't wait to see the finished product!
Jordan
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Eb Frankentuba
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Martin Medium Eb Helicon
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Re: Adding a 5th to my Eb
Awesome.
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Re: Adding a 5th to my Eb
I like the 1903 coin idea.
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Re: Adding a 5th to my Eb
Where you put the valve in...Is the tubing tapered or parallel?
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Re: Adding a 5th to my Eb
Reason for my question is that going from ~687 to ~728 is about .110% taper, and that ain't that aggressive.
Many tubas has their tapering far above that on their main tuning U, but there again. That is not in
a step, but OK. A valve will be a disturbance no matter what.
What I mean to tell you. You could enter with a 689 and exit with a 728
I would round off all the inner edges of the tubings. Most important the exhaust ones,
but also the input ones.
This means of course cutting out the space for the valve, not making the horn longer.
I would think at this as a good solution, and it also gives you a 728 5th
Many tubas has their tapering far above that on their main tuning U, but there again. That is not in
a step, but OK. A valve will be a disturbance no matter what.
What I mean to tell you. You could enter with a 689 and exit with a 728
I would round off all the inner edges of the tubings. Most important the exhaust ones,
but also the input ones.
This means of course cutting out the space for the valve, not making the horn longer.
I would think at this as a good solution, and it also gives you a 728 5th
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Re: Adding a 5th to my Eb
Join the clubGrooving for Heaven wrote:t........., and none that I know of with a 5th valve
here's the coin I bought to use for the linkage. I think it will look awesome.
Well....Mine is far from original, but I did manage to press in a 5th in a nice way
Even with a vintage linkage
I was thinking of getting 4 US silver coins myselves for the valves
All I can say to that is
It's a nice project you have going there, but it looks difficult to get a good looking
5th circuit from that placement...Or maybe not?
The linkage should be easy enough thou
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Re: Adding a 5th to my Eb
I took the paddle from an old GDR B&S....It's good that they can come to use too
The pearl slots are 20mm, but if I'm going for the coin thing I'll silver solder them directly
to a bolt with a sanded head or something. Getting it perpendicular could be tricky.
I am not sure of the year...I can find out, but just hasn't bothered yet. I assume ~1910
As for the clockspring paddle. If interested, I still have a few left.
Sounds like you have a plan for the 5th circuit.
I told my-selves that I wanted a 5th, but now playing it. The privileged notes are so
strong and well sounding that 3 valves could actually do it, and probably sound
even better without the 4th and 5th.
I try not to thing too much of that
The pearl slots are 20mm, but if I'm going for the coin thing I'll silver solder them directly
to a bolt with a sanded head or something. Getting it perpendicular could be tricky.
I am not sure of the year...I can find out, but just hasn't bothered yet. I assume ~1910
As for the clockspring paddle. If interested, I still have a few left.
Sounds like you have a plan for the 5th circuit.
I told my-selves that I wanted a 5th, but now playing it. The privileged notes are so
strong and well sounding that 3 valves could actually do it, and probably sound
even better without the 4th and 5th.
I try not to thing too much of that
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Re: Adding a 5th to my Eb
Will you still have room to "flip" your first valve slide with your "plan C" set up?
Jordan
King 2341 with a Holton "Monster" Eb bell
Eb Frankentuba
Martin Medium Eb Helicon
If at first you don't succeed, skydiving's probably not for you.
King 2341 with a Holton "Monster" Eb bell
Eb Frankentuba
Martin Medium Eb Helicon
If at first you don't succeed, skydiving's probably not for you.
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Re: Adding a 5th to my Eb
Whoaa! That's going to be a huge thumb paddle with a Liberty Head dollar on it. As a numismatist I think that is one really amazing idea. I would sell everything I own to have a horn that awesome.
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Re: Adding a 5th to my Eb
That it is. At first glance I thought that was a woman. lol
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Re: Adding a 5th to my Eb
And, hopefully, G will settle in nicely 2-3-4 and Gb 5-3-4 with only a small lip down or slight pull, etc. Great looking horn.Grooving for Heaven wrote:I'm doing the 5th more for the Low Ab than the notes below it, but it's nice to have options.
How much do you think it will weigh when finished?
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Nice. Add, "easy to hold onto and carry" to all its other positive attributes.
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Re: Adding a 5th to my Eb
Hope it will fit in good
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Re: Adding a 5th to my Eb
Nice find- when do you think it will be finished?
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Re: Adding a 5th to my Eb
Hooray! I was actually thinking about what became of this project a while back. Nice to see an update!
Jordan
King 2341 with a Holton "Monster" Eb bell
Eb Frankentuba
Martin Medium Eb Helicon
If at first you don't succeed, skydiving's probably not for you.
King 2341 with a Holton "Monster" Eb bell
Eb Frankentuba
Martin Medium Eb Helicon
If at first you don't succeed, skydiving's probably not for you.
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Re: Adding a 5th to my Eb
Very, very cool.
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Re: Adding a 5th to my Eb
I know I can't wait to see it! Are the new parts going to be finished in the "frosted" silver like the rest of the horn?
Jordan
King 2341 with a Holton "Monster" Eb bell
Eb Frankentuba
Martin Medium Eb Helicon
If at first you don't succeed, skydiving's probably not for you.
King 2341 with a Holton "Monster" Eb bell
Eb Frankentuba
Martin Medium Eb Helicon
If at first you don't succeed, skydiving's probably not for you.