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tuba on SNL

Posted: Mon May 13, 2013 1:47 am
by Biggs
This anybody you know?

http://www.hulu.com/watch/489171

He plays on Vampire Weekend's second number, at just past the 50-minute mark of the linked video. Kinda cool, especially given that Justin Timberlake's episode also featured some tuba playing.

Re: tuba on SNL

Posted: Mon May 13, 2013 3:07 am
by UDELBR
Another link maybe? Hulu only works inside the US.

Re: tuba on SNL

Posted: Mon May 13, 2013 3:29 am
by tubajoe
it was Ibanda Ruhumbika

Re: tuba on SNL

Posted: Mon May 13, 2013 10:06 am
by Dan Schultz
Biggs wrote:This anybody you know?

http://www.hulu.com/watch/489171

He plays on Vampire Weekend's second number, at just past the 50-minute mark of the linked video. Kinda cool, especially given that Justin Timberlake's episode also featured some tuba playing.
That site just sucks! Too darned many ads. ... never got to see the tuba!

Re: tuba on SNL

Posted: Mon May 13, 2013 10:55 am
by bort
I know... Hulu is too much like watching TV (too many commercials).

I saw this Saturday night too. Saw the tuba, but didn't hear it.

There was also a tuba joke during weekend update, something about a study found guitar players have 20% better chance of getting a woman's phone number. Sorry, tuba player. (Meh, something like that. It wasn't really funny, except to hear "tuba" on TV.)

Re: tuba on SNL

Posted: Mon May 13, 2013 1:46 pm
by Biggs
tubajoe wrote:it was Ibanda Ruhumbika
Cool, thanks!

Re: tuba on SNL

Posted: Mon May 13, 2013 1:57 pm
by Untersatz
What was the point of that? :shock:
Whether that guy was playing the tuba or not...............it made little difference in the sound :shock:

Re: tuba on SNL

Posted: Mon May 13, 2013 3:47 pm
by Biggs
TubaTinker wrote:
Biggs wrote:This anybody you know?

http://www.hulu.com/watch/489171

He plays on Vampire Weekend's second number, at just past the 50-minute mark of the linked video. Kinda cool, especially given that Justin Timberlake's episode also featured some tuba playing.
That site just sucks! Too darned many ads. ... never got to see the tuba!
Tough cookies. Try clicking ahead to where I indicated if you're interested. Also some ripping bass sax in the first number, just past the 26-minute mark (if you can manage one mouse click, anyway :roll: ).

Re: tuba on SNL

Posted: Mon May 13, 2013 3:52 pm
by Biggs
TubaMusikMann wrote:What was the point of that? :shock:
Whether that guy was playing the tuba or not...............it made little difference in the sound :shock:
Try listening on a decent pair of speakers. And wait for the horn break. And google his name to learn that he's a pretty serious player.

To paraphrase Rick Pitino, all the negativity in this thread stinks.

Re: tuba on SNL

Posted: Mon May 13, 2013 4:08 pm
by Dan Schultz
Biggs wrote:....Tough cookies. Try clicking ahead to where I indicated if you're interested. Also some ripping bass sax in the first number, just past the 26-minute mark (if you can manage one mouse click, anyway :roll: ).
Tough cookies, my butt! Why not just post a link that goes directly to what you want to show us!

No need to roll your eyes at me, buster!

Re: tuba on SNL

Posted: Mon May 13, 2013 4:27 pm
by Biggs
TubaTinker wrote:
Biggs wrote:....Tough cookies. Try clicking ahead to where I indicated if you're interested. Also some ripping bass sax in the first number, just past the 26-minute mark (if you can manage one mouse click, anyway :roll: ).
Tough cookies, my butt! Why not just post a link that goes directly to what you want to show us!

No need to roll your eyes at me, buster!
http://www.hulu.com/watch/489158#i1,p5,d1

Here you go, compliments of the fine folks at NBC! For the record, I was just looking for the name of the player, not to give a tutorial on how to use Hulu.

Re: tuba on SNL

Posted: Mon May 13, 2013 9:26 pm
by DJMT1287
I know in the Justin Timberlake appearance, the instrumentalists were "mock" playing their instruments. The album credits The Regiment & Benjamin Wright as the horn players on 20/20 Experience, which means they took sound samples and mixed them digitally. I saw somewhere that they may have been Edwards horn sound samples? On the SNL performance, the guy who is a allegedly playing tuba on one song, is playing flute on the other…

As for the Vampire Weekend performance, a lot of the instrumental sounds sounded like they were being sent thru a mixer as well. I'm not sure about the actual SNL performance, but I wouldn't be surprised if some of those guys were "mock" playing the concert band instruments. I honestly couldn't really hear the tuba on my television. These pop bands could be bringing in people to hold horns and make it look like they're actually playing background material. I mean the contrasax player was breathing in spots where there was still contrasax sounds being performed, if you watch closely.

I only bring this up because there has been obvious lip-synching on SNL in the past. If you search the archives, there is a performance of Ashlee Simpson where she starts to sing one song, but a different song starts to play thru the speakers:

http://www.veoh.com/watch/v15490419bqh6 ... +up+on+SNL" target="_blank

So I guess what I'm saying, is that it's possible this Ibanda Ruhumbika guy could have just been holding a tuba, just like that other guy was playing tuba with Justin Timberlake. Better crowd appeal, maybe? That's just my opinion, though. I'm sure there's evidence out there to prove me wrong.

Re: tuba on SNL

Posted: Mon May 13, 2013 11:03 pm
by Untersatz
If I recorded myself farting while simultaneously scratching my fingernails across a chalkboard for two and half minutes, it would sound better than any song these cock gobblers have ever released
Bands That Suck Balls: Vampire Weekend :mrgreen:

http://getoffmylawnkid.blogspot.com/201 ... ekend.html" target="_blank

Re: tuba on SNL

Posted: Mon May 13, 2013 11:15 pm
by Biggs
TubaMusikMann wrote:
If I recorded myself farting while simultaneously scratching my fingernails across a chalkboard for two and half minutes, it would sound better than any song these cock gobblers have ever released
Bands That Suck Balls: Vampire Weekend :mrgreen:

http://getoffmylawnkid.blogspot.com/201 ... ekend.html" target="_blank" target="_blank
Maybe. Probably. But I do know they pay money to a guy who plays tuba. Or maybe they pay money to a guy who holds a tuba. The latter might be better, as I consider myself pretty advanced when it comes to holding tubas.

Re: tuba on SNL

Posted: Mon May 13, 2013 11:58 pm
by tubajoe
These pop bands could be bringing in people to hold horns and make it look like they're actually playing background material. I mean the contrasax player was breathing in spots where there was still contrasax sounds being performed, if you watch closely.
TV is a fickle business. That bass sax player is one of my main musical partners, he and I (and a guitarist) run Gato Loco (he's on tenor here - http://vimeo.com/62751195" target="_blank ) he's the real deal, he's downright humbling as performer actually. As far as the quartet goes in the other song, they are all real players. I've played with the trombone player, he's good, plays in David Byrne's brass band.

I know they rehearsed the stuff for several days beforehand, and what happens live in the studio is different than what you hear on your TV. It sounds to me like the band was about half live, half tracks... with the horns being mostly (synth) tracks. The sounds heard sound as if they might not even really be horns, rather studio synth samples instead, or more likely a hybrid.

It's the nature of the business. I can assure you all 5 players are serious very good horn players.

It's very common for bands like that to use different compliments on the record than live... and doing the thing on TV includes a lot of factors that go waaay beyond making the music. And again, it's nothing to take away from those players whatsoever.

Often with rock recording sessions (I do this regularly) the parts are often already recorded with sampled sounds and it's the horn player's job to more or less recreate what the sampled part is (as there is usually no written music) and what ends up on the album, and in this case live, is a hybrid of the actual horns and pre-recorded samples. And with this SNL broadcast it's probably up to the mixing guy -- on the fly, as to how much of each will be used... and on hi-end TV which is clean and slick, they are going to take the safe route.

And like I said, TV is the most fickle - and music is often not what determines decisions, even when it's a musical situation. A year and a half ago I was contracted to appear in an episode of 30 Rock. I was told to clear an entire week for it. But, as things go, at the last minute, the friggin day before I was to go in, the script was changed and they instead brought in a person of different stature/age and the part had changed to a guy just holding a tuba for a few seconds.
...That's how these things work, usually very very last minute and there are a million factors and different people involved. It's nothing to take away from Ibanda in this situation, he's a good player, recently graduated from Julliard. And, he brought his big CC!

The recent metal record I played on is this same way, it's a deep soup of brass and sequenced sounds, with decisions made by many people along the way. First it's the composer, then it's me, then it's the composer again, then it's the mixer, then it's the masterer.... modern recording is a crazy process...

Once the notes are out of your bell, you have little to no control over what will happen. You have to learn not to worry about it or it will eat you. Some of the best things I've done were recorded lo-fi and almost haphazardly, and some of the things I like least were done by slick hi-dollar situations with many awards on their walls. That's how it goes...

Which, is why we treasure old recordings... be it the CSO/Reiner doing Bartok, or TV with the Tonight Show Band... the old days on SNL when they'd have Zappa -- or the great Jonathan Dorn playing along side Leon Redbone... etc etc.

Re: tuba on SNL

Posted: Tue May 14, 2013 1:12 am
by David Richoux
Somewhat related -

There have been several examples of tuba abuse in the promos for the AMC new reality series "Showville."

Since I don't watch any "talent" shows I probably won't watch this one either.

Re: tuba on SNL

Posted: Tue May 14, 2013 3:39 am
by tubajoe
David Richoux wrote:tuba abuse
Ha! Yes!!!