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Helicon family

Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2013 12:00 am
by imperialbari
Working from the end screen of the video linked to in Paul T's recent helicon thread lead to more videos with the same string ensemble backing helicons. A soprano played a Handel aria and a tenor played Tico Tico, the former more interesting than the latter, even if the very young soprano player cannot stay on pitch through all phrases.

Found this article:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soprano_helicon

Which doesn't entirely confirm with my reading of this engraving, where I see something like B & F, which would indicate Bohland & Fuchs, a brand supposed to be part of Amati now:
Engraving small.png
The new helicon family looks like having 7 members:
7 helicons Small.png
The photos are screen dumps from this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twSMGC2Otf4

Klaus

Re: Helicon family

Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2013 1:05 am
by David Richoux
What an interesting looking family of horn!

It seems like Nenad Markovic is a somewhat common name in the area, but I think this is the right one:
http://nenadmarkovic.blogspot.com/p/cv.html

Also found this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOsFQGXZQ4A

Re: Helicon family

Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2013 1:26 am
by imperialbari
Nenad Markovic appears being from Novi Sad, which is in northern Serbia. Sad that the language barriers often let Eastern European traditions be largely unknown in more western countries.

Klaus

Re: Helicon family

Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2013 1:12 pm
by David Richoux
KiltieTuba wrote:Wouldn't the smaller helicons be considered french horns?
According to the Wiki article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soprano_helicon (which seems to be taken from some Melton corporate press release) the bore is very conical, even increasing in the valve section somehow.

Re: Helicon family

Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2013 1:49 pm
by Untersatz
Sounds like a flugelhorn to me :wink:

Re: Helicon family

Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2013 10:21 pm
by 1895King
I have a photo of the 7th U.S. Cavalry bandroom at Fort Riley, Kansas taken around 1900. It shows several sizes of helicons and I think I have one of the band mounted on horses using them.

Re: Helicon family

Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2013 11:21 pm
by bisontuba
Hi-
Like this CDV...Alto, tenor & bass helicons...

Image

Like this salt print-- two fellows in the middle have round/circular/'butterfly' soprano saxhorns in the "helicon style"

Image

FYI..
Mark

Re: Helicon family

Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2013 11:55 pm
by David Richoux
There have been many different circular shaped brass instruments - this "Soprano Helicon" is not a brand new idea!

http://www.metzlerbrassrepair.com/resou ... button.jpg
http://www.metzlerbrassrepair.com/resou ... button.jpg
http://www.rugs-n-relics.com/Brass/mell ... horn-F.jpg
http://www.horn-u-copia.net/instruments ... ocal-h.jpg
http://www.fortpointbrassband.org/uploa ... 5B1%5D.jpg
http://www.horncollector.com/baritone_brass.html (under construction, so some links won't work)
http://americusbrassband.org/instrument ... a-circ.jpg
http://www.robbstewart.com/images/fiske ... ar_004.jpg

and there are probably many more! I wouldn't exactly categorize them as Helicons since they do not wrap around the body of the player, nor could they be played easily while riding a horse!