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Just wondering where this mouthpiece falls in relation to others? I've seen a lot of posts on people using the 1 and 1xl. Might have a chance to try both versions of the 4 and wanted to know what to compare it to.

JJ

Jerryleejr wrote:Just wondering where this mouthpiece falls in relation to others? I've seen a lot of posts on people using the 1 and 1xl. Might have a chance to try both versions of the 4 and wanted to know what to compare it to.

JJ

The Wick 4 is a trombone mouthpiece. If this is for your 2341 I think of the Wick mouthpieces the Wick 2 works best in a 2341. I think the 1 is too big for a smaller bore instrument like the 2341, but if it works for you thats great. I can't imagine using a 4 though.

The 4 is the size of a G&W Churada, or 0.1mm smaller than a Bach 25. It has a bigger cup than most bass trombone mouthpieces of similar size. It would make a decent crossover mouthpiece for euph or bone players moving up to a small tuba, but it's way too small for most CC or BBb players. I tried one for a while with Civil War era horns, but it was too small for me. It fit euph players doubling on our old Eb contrabasses just fine, though.

GC wrote:The 4 is the size of a G&W Churada, or 0.1mm smaller than a Bach 25. It has a bigger cup than most bass trombone mouthpieces of similar size. It would make a decent crossover mouthpiece for euph or bone players moving up to a small tuba, but it's way too small for most CC or BBb players. I tried one for a while with Civil War era horns, but it was too small for me. It fit euph players doubling on our old Eb contrabasses just fine, though.

That's what I needed to know, they were listed as tuba mouthpieces on Dennis wicks website. So I'll pass then

JJ

I've never seen the 4, but I use a Denis Wick 5 on one of my Eb tubas. It's about the same cup diameter as the 4, apparently a hair smaller. I like it quite a bit, for that relatively small tuba.

Denis Wick makes mouthpieces for various brass instruments; there's a 4AL and 4BL large shank trombone and 4BS small shank trombone. And there's a 4 tuba mouthpiece, with a cup diameter 30.5mm, which would be very large for even bass trombone -- and a 4L, which is the same thing with an ordinary size shank. The 4 will be a small shank that fits some old Eb tubas and rarely other old tuba receivers (and will go in a bass trombone, albeit poorly.) If you don't know what receiver size you have, you probably need a 4L, not a 4.

The correct inside diameter for a mouthpiece depends as much on your face as on the size of the tuba. 30.5 is on the small end of the range, where relatively few people are going to find it ideal for contrabass tuba, but I bet a quarter those people exist.

They ARE tuba mouthpieces. I was just comparing them in size to bass bone mouthpieces. For crossover players, they're a good size and get a pretty good tuba sound, better than using a bass bone mp on a small-shank horn. They're a very different animal than the Wick 4 trombone mp family.