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Some questions about euphonium playing

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2013 2:04 pm
by thetubalover
Hi everyone on the forum,

I have been playing the BBb and C tuba for 7 years and I would like to learn how to play the euphonium now. I have a few questions about how to improve my euphonium playing.

1) Often when I go notes above middle C, I feel slightly stuffy and cannot really articulate well from notes above middle C. Yes, my sound get thinner and I couldn't play notes above middle C in softer dynamics. How do I settle myself well in that register and probably expand my range until octave above middle C for now? Would really appreciate if anyone could suggest any exercises for to solve this problem..

2) I often feel my face getting red and my chops getting tired after probably 30 mins of euphonium playing? Any suggestions on any exercise I could do, to improve my chops stamina on the euphonium?

3) I feel inefficient as air always get leaked out of the sides of my chops as I play notes below low F(the note at the bottom of the 5 lines), with the euphonium. This never happened when I practice pedal tones with tuba so I was wondering how can I focus my air and make sure I improve my efficiency in this matter? And also for the notes above middle C, I feel tired easily playing those notes. I think it is a efficiency issue as well. Any suggestions of exercises/methods I could do, to increase my efficiency and smoothen my playing?

Thank you to all that have taken a couple of minutes to read this post of mine and hope to hear some replies if possible!

Re: Some questions about euphonium playing

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2013 9:18 pm
by Bombardonier
Slowly but surely work your way through Arban's interval exercises (octaves, twelfths, etc.)...first focusing on wind and sound...then fluency. Each time you master an exercise...go up a half step and repeat.

Re: Some questions about euphonium playing

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2013 10:39 pm
by thetubalover
Bombardonier wrote:Slowly but surely work your way through Arban's interval exercises (octaves, twelfths, etc.)...first focusing on wind and sound...then fluency. Each time you master an exercise...go up a half step and repeat.
I'll do it, thank you!!
bloke wrote:1/ If (??) you're using an extra-extra deep euphonium mouthpiece (or lord-forbid, one of those bari-tuba mouthpieces) put it in your sock draw and pull out a "normal" euphonium mouthpiece.
I am using a SM3 on a Yamaha 642. Is it okay?

Re: Some questions about euphonium playing

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2013 10:54 pm
by Bombardonier
The SM3 is on the bigger side of things...but not necessarily too big for euphonium. Perhaps more importantly...have you tried any other pieces for comparison? Bigger is not necessarily better.

Re: Some questions about euphonium playing

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2013 11:00 pm
by Bombardonier
I "feel" better playing a 57...but get a more characteristic sound on a 52E2. I don't switch back and forth "all the time," but I do like the option to switch if it makes sense.

Re: Some questions about euphonium playing

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2013 11:09 pm
by Bombardonier
I also keep a 6.5al around in case I need a more consistent baritone sound (I.e., brighter) for a concert/set.

Re: Some questions about euphonium playing

Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 12:52 am
by Biggs
bloke wrote:or lord-forbid, one of those bari-tuba mouthpieces
Question(s) for bloke:

Are you referring to mouthpieces that have euphonium cups with tuba rims?

If so, can you elaborate as to why these are bad? Is it just because they're not the intended mouthpiece for the instrument/what euphonium designers had in mind when making their instruments?

Just asking for my own edification.

Re: Some questions about euphonium playing

Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 7:50 am
by pgym
Biggs wrote:
bloke wrote:or lord-forbid, one of those bari-tuba mouthpieces
Question(s) for bloke:

Are you referring to mouthpieces that have euphonium cups with tuba rims?

If so, can you elaborate as to why these are bad?
Easy: wrong sound and lousy intonation.
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Re: Some questions about euphonium playing

Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 7:51 am
by pgym
Biggs wrote:
bloke wrote:or lord-forbid, one of those bari-tuba mouthpieces
Question(s) for bloke:

Are you referring to mouthpieces that have euphonium cups with tuba rims?

If so, can you elaborate as to why these are bad?
You mean besides the resultant sound and intonation?

Re: Some questions about euphonium playing

Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 7:49 pm
by ghmerrill

Re: Some questions about euphonium playing

Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2013 1:46 am
by Biggs
Thanks for all of the replies, "bloke."