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Yesterday at a gig, one of the trumpet players brought one of the PLASTIC 'Tiger Trumpets' to show--amazing and sounds great (Check out the videos)--can't wait for the tuba version! They actually DO work!
Mark

http://www.warburton-usa.com/index.php/tiger-trumpet" target="_blank

Grooving for Heaven wrote:I've seen trombones like that too. I heard they play pretty nice
I can understand why most valve oil would be bad, but I'm wondering why silicone oil wouldn't work?

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The pistons and the plastic apparently can cause damage to the plastic and voids the warranty (yes, even a warranty on these horns !!!) IF regular valve oil is used. There is also, besides the Tiger valve oil, Tiger slide grease. The plastic mouthpiece is OK, but like the pBones, a regular metal mouthpiece is best.
BTW, the pistons have a brass sleeve around them AND all valves are interchangeable!! The way the horn is designed, you can 'mix and match' pistons 1, 2, & 3 in any casing --all the ports are the same. Pretty clever!
I was very impressed hearing the orchestra trumpet players trying it out after the gig yesterday in a parking lot. I can see schools buying these by the case load...
Mark

Have they announced or published any commitments to develop a tuba version?

sousaphone68 wrote:Have they announced or published any commitments to develop a tuba version?

Don't know......
Mark

Curmudgeon wrote:At $300+, I'd buy an Olds Ambassador and save some $$$.

+1, and the Olds has an adjustable 2nd valve slide

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Yesterday, I saw the metal around the pistons on the Tiger trumpet-- it was 'brass color'---do they make aluminum the color of brass?
Mark

Brian thank you for your post it confirmed my assumptions.

From your experiments in plastic do you think they could scale up the valve to tuba size?

They seem to like identical valves for ease of manufacturing I suppose, so maybe a rotary plastic valve set might be offered in the future.

jonesmj wrote:Hi-
Yesterday, I saw the metal around the pistons on the Tiger trumpet-- it was 'brass color'---do they make aluminum the color of brass?
Mark

There a hundreds of grades of aluminum ranging from very soft to very hard. However... I'm just guessing that if the sleeves are aluminum it's the cheapest, softest stuff available and anodized to give it a hard surface. Anodizing can be about any color.

ALL plastics suffer from a phenomenon know as 'creep'. ... some more than others. ABS is a 'trash' plastic unless it's alloyed with other engineered materials to give it specific properties. The clearances that are designed into items like this have to be large enough to cover things like thermal expansion, moisture absorption, and 'creep'.

There are plastics like Fortran and Valox that can exhibit near-metalic properties and Delrin has very low moisture absorption characteristics but you're not going to buy those materials to make 'toys' out of.

I don't like it. I'm not sure why I don't like it, but I don't like it.

Ben wrote:

TT website wrote:Pistons and casing sleeve made of aircraft 6061-T6 aluminum

That's a pretty stiff grade of aluminum but probably still anodized to give it a harder surface.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GoCQ5di5Cxg

Just ran across this today searching for something else.