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Wien Staatsoper
Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 12:38 am
by sloan
Two questions:
1) what's that puny-looking excuse for a tuba?
2) HOW does he get such an incredible sound out of it?
3) (OK, I lied) Why are there titles in English for an Opera SUNG in English? Isn't that a bit insulting?
Re: Wien Staatsoper
Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 3:42 am
by oedipoes
answer on 2)
That's Paul Halwax ...
He would sound good on the mouthpiece alone too.
Re: Wien Staatsoper
Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 7:05 am
by Untersatz
Did I miss something here???
What tuba are you referring to?
I don't see a photo, a video, or a link to either one
All I see is the title of this thread, which I can figure out that it means Vienna State Opera,
which actually should be Wiener Staatsoper
Re: Wien Staatsoper
Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 3:17 pm
by sloan
Classic TubeNet: an Austrian spelling flame!
Re: Wien Staatsoper
Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 3:21 pm
by sloan
sloan wrote:
3) (OK, I lied) Why are there titles in English for an Opera SUNG in English? Isn't that a bit insulting?
So...I set the titles to "Deutsch". The only way to make the storyline in "Peter Grimes" interesting.
Re: Wien Staatsoper
Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 4:27 pm
by David Richoux
oedipoes wrote:answer on 2)
That's Paul Halwax ...
He would sound good on the mouthpiece alone too.
Could also be Christoph Gigler according to the
website.
Re: Wien Staatsoper
Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 4:41 pm
by sloan
David Richoux wrote:oedipoes wrote:answer on 2)
That's Paul Halwax ...
He would sound good on the mouthpiece alone too.
Could also be Christoph Gigler according to the
website.
To whoever was on duty last Sunday afternoon for the "Peter Grimes" - my congratulations.
Re: Wien Staatsoper
Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 5:01 pm
by burningchrome
sloan wrote:
2) HOW does he get such an incredible sound out of it?
I always remember a masterclass I went to with Gene Pokorny. He played The York with his mouthpiece and sounded like a million bucks. Then he played a student's rotary, lacquer horn with the student's mouthpiece and he sounded like $999,999. This experience has been reinforced by the guy I sit next to in concert band who sounds fantastic on everything from a piston HoJo, to a PT-1, to a 20K.
Re: Wien Staatsoper
Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 6:08 pm
by finnbogi
I just got back to my guesthouse after watching a wonderful performance of Tristan und Isolde at Staatsoper tonight. As far as I could see through my opera glasses Gigler was playing a not particularly big eight rotary valve F tuba (4+4 setup) but he certainly sounded great - I didn't need the opera glasses to notice that!
Re: Wien Staatsoper
Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 6:59 pm
by sloan
finnbogi wrote:I just got back to my guesthouse after watching a wonderful performance of Tristan und Isolde at Staatsoper tonight. As far as I could see through my opera glasses Gigler was playing a not particularly big eight rotary valve F tuba (4+4 setup) but he certainly sounded great - I didn't need the opera glasses to notice that!
Then you will appreciate our seats for last Sunday: Parterre 13, seats 1 & 2. Worth every penny. No opera glasses (or x-ray glasses to see through partitions!) required.
Re: Wien Staatsoper
Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 10:03 pm
by cambrook
As far as I could see through my opera glasses Gigler was playing a not particularly big eight rotary valve F tuba (4+4 setup) but he certainly sounded great - I didn't need the opera glasses to notice that!
Are you sure it didn't have 8 paddles?
Maybe a 4+2 (as is traditional in F tubas sold in Germany) - with 2 triggers like some Rudy's?
Re: Wien Staatsoper
Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 10:22 pm
by Untersatz
It was very common years ago to have the 3+3 system (3 RH & 3 LH) on the orchestral F tubas in Austria.
So I would imagine that a 4+4 wouldn't be out of the question.

Re: Wien Staatsoper
Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 11:13 pm
by burningchrome
What in the world are 4+4 fingerings??
Re: Wien Staatsoper
Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 11:53 pm
by Bob Kolada
sloan wrote:Classic TubeNet: an Austrian spelling flame!
Classic-er Tubenet: a professor misspelling common phrases and denying it?

Re: Wien Staatsoper
Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 11:58 pm
by sloan
Bob Kolada wrote:sloan wrote:Classic TubeNet: an Austrian spelling flame!
Classic-er Tubenet: a professor misspelling common phrases and denying it?

Please quote the "denial".
Re: Wien Staatsoper
Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2013 12:02 am
by Bob Kolada
sloan wrote:Classic TubeNet: an Austrian spelling flame!
sloan wrote:Bob Kolada wrote:sloan wrote:Classic TubeNet: an Austrian spelling flame!
Classic-er Tubenet: a professor misspelling common phrases and denying it?

Please quote the "denial".
With no attempts to acknowledge or correct, it seems...
Re: Wien Staatsoper
Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2013 12:04 am
by Bob Kolada
I'm glad you had the opportunity to see what appeared to be a very good show.
Re: Wien Staatsoper
Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2013 12:06 am
by sloan
Bob Kolada wrote:
With no attempts to acknowledge or correct, it seems...
Please quote the "denial".
Re: Wien Staatsoper
Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2013 12:14 am
by bort
This is annoying.
Re: Wien Staatsoper
Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2013 12:18 am
by Bob Kolada
I didn't quote the word "denial". Please quote where I quoted that. Fyi, slamming someone on the internet for a mild spelling correction (as you really seemed to have done) and not fixing it can effectively be considered a denial. I don't know why you're always so angry.