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Wien Staatsoper

Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 12:38 am
by sloan
Two questions:

1) what's that puny-looking excuse for a tuba?
2) HOW does he get such an incredible sound out of it?

3) (OK, I lied) Why are there titles in English for an Opera SUNG in English? Isn't that a bit insulting?

Re: Wien Staatsoper

Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 3:42 am
by oedipoes
answer on 2)
That's Paul Halwax ... :tuba:
He would sound good on the mouthpiece alone too.

Re: Wien Staatsoper

Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 7:05 am
by Untersatz
Did I miss something here??? :shock:
What tuba are you referring to?
I don't see a photo, a video, or a link to either one :shock:
All I see is the title of this thread, which I can figure out that it means Vienna State Opera,
which actually should be Wiener Staatsoper

Re: Wien Staatsoper

Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 3:17 pm
by sloan
Classic TubeNet: an Austrian spelling flame!

Re: Wien Staatsoper

Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 3:21 pm
by sloan
sloan wrote:
3) (OK, I lied) Why are there titles in English for an Opera SUNG in English? Isn't that a bit insulting?
So...I set the titles to "Deutsch". The only way to make the storyline in "Peter Grimes" interesting.

Re: Wien Staatsoper

Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 4:27 pm
by David Richoux
oedipoes wrote:answer on 2)
That's Paul Halwax ... :tuba:
He would sound good on the mouthpiece alone too.
Could also be Christoph Gigler according to the website.

Re: Wien Staatsoper

Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 4:41 pm
by sloan
David Richoux wrote:
oedipoes wrote:answer on 2)
That's Paul Halwax ... :tuba:
He would sound good on the mouthpiece alone too.
Could also be Christoph Gigler according to the website.
To whoever was on duty last Sunday afternoon for the "Peter Grimes" - my congratulations.

Re: Wien Staatsoper

Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 5:01 pm
by burningchrome
sloan wrote: 2) HOW does he get such an incredible sound out of it?
I always remember a masterclass I went to with Gene Pokorny. He played The York with his mouthpiece and sounded like a million bucks. Then he played a student's rotary, lacquer horn with the student's mouthpiece and he sounded like $999,999. This experience has been reinforced by the guy I sit next to in concert band who sounds fantastic on everything from a piston HoJo, to a PT-1, to a 20K.

Re: Wien Staatsoper

Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 6:08 pm
by finnbogi
I just got back to my guesthouse after watching a wonderful performance of Tristan und Isolde at Staatsoper tonight. As far as I could see through my opera glasses Gigler was playing a not particularly big eight rotary valve F tuba (4+4 setup) but he certainly sounded great - I didn't need the opera glasses to notice that!

Re: Wien Staatsoper

Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 6:59 pm
by sloan
finnbogi wrote:I just got back to my guesthouse after watching a wonderful performance of Tristan und Isolde at Staatsoper tonight. As far as I could see through my opera glasses Gigler was playing a not particularly big eight rotary valve F tuba (4+4 setup) but he certainly sounded great - I didn't need the opera glasses to notice that!
Then you will appreciate our seats for last Sunday: Parterre 13, seats 1 & 2. Worth every penny. No opera glasses (or x-ray glasses to see through partitions!) required.

Re: Wien Staatsoper

Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 10:03 pm
by cambrook
As far as I could see through my opera glasses Gigler was playing a not particularly big eight rotary valve F tuba (4+4 setup) but he certainly sounded great - I didn't need the opera glasses to notice that!
Are you sure it didn't have 8 paddles?
Maybe a 4+2 (as is traditional in F tubas sold in Germany) - with 2 triggers like some Rudy's?

Re: Wien Staatsoper

Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 10:22 pm
by Untersatz
It was very common years ago to have the 3+3 system (3 RH & 3 LH) on the orchestral F tubas in Austria.
So I would imagine that a 4+4 wouldn't be out of the question. :roll:

Re: Wien Staatsoper

Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 11:13 pm
by burningchrome
What in the world are 4+4 fingerings??

Re: Wien Staatsoper

Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 11:53 pm
by Bob Kolada
sloan wrote:Classic TubeNet: an Austrian spelling flame!

Classic-er Tubenet: a professor misspelling common phrases and denying it? :wink:

Re: Wien Staatsoper

Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 11:58 pm
by sloan
Bob Kolada wrote:
sloan wrote:Classic TubeNet: an Austrian spelling flame!

Classic-er Tubenet: a professor misspelling common phrases and denying it? :wink:
Please quote the "denial".

Re: Wien Staatsoper

Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2013 12:02 am
by Bob Kolada
sloan wrote:Classic TubeNet: an Austrian spelling flame!
sloan wrote:
Bob Kolada wrote:
sloan wrote:Classic TubeNet: an Austrian spelling flame!

Classic-er Tubenet: a professor misspelling common phrases and denying it? :wink:
Please quote the "denial".
With no attempts to acknowledge or correct, it seems...

Re: Wien Staatsoper

Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2013 12:04 am
by Bob Kolada
I'm glad you had the opportunity to see what appeared to be a very good show.

Re: Wien Staatsoper

Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2013 12:06 am
by sloan
Bob Kolada wrote:
With no attempts to acknowledge or correct, it seems...
Please quote the "denial".

Re: Wien Staatsoper

Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2013 12:14 am
by bort
This is annoying.

Re: Wien Staatsoper

Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2013 12:18 am
by Bob Kolada
I didn't quote the word "denial". Please quote where I quoted that. Fyi, slamming someone on the internet for a mild spelling correction (as you really seemed to have done) and not fixing it can effectively be considered a denial. I don't know why you're always so angry.