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Re: Helleberg / Geib
Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2014 9:52 am
by Lectron
Oh....Living happily unknowing while playing piston tubas with Geib
Whether they're called this or that, I seem to favor the sound I get from a
Geib style. I only have piston tubas
Re: Helleberg / Geib
Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2014 10:36 am
by Donn
For what it's worth, one version of the story says it isn't the valves that matter, so much as the distance to the valves.
Re: Helleberg / Geib
Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2014 12:38 pm
by iiipopes
After seeing the top picture, "August" is definitely the adjective describing the tuba Mr. Helleberg is playing, as well as being his first name. So, instead of using the acronym BAT for a large tuba, if the mouthpiece is a "Helleberg," then the large tuba should be the "August."
Re: Helleberg / Geib
Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2014 1:39 pm
by Lectron
I can't quite tell by the pic, but is that a humongous leadpipe on the top one?
Re: Helleberg / Geib
Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2014 5:30 pm
by TubaRay
iiipopes wrote: if the mouthpiece is a "Helleberg," then the large tuba should be the "August."
All of this has made me wonder about the now infamous "Hellenberg" mpc. I remember that some folks believe it has helped them achieve a "world-class" sound. If all of that is true, and if a BAT tuba should really be known as "August," then would the Hellenberg be deserving of being called the "May" mpc.? I mean, with a Hellenberg mpc., they MIGHT be able to get that sound.
Re: Helleberg / Geib
Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2014 7:19 pm
by Untersatz
Re: Helleberg / Geib
Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2014 11:05 pm
by TubaRay
Haven't heard of Hellenberg?
Re: Helleberg / Geib
Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 3:08 am
by Kevin Hendrick
TubaRay wrote:Haven't heard of Hellenberg?
Oh ... Helen Berg? Yeah, yeah, yeah ... I remember her from college. Nice gal. Played oboe, I think ...

Re: Helleberg / Geib
Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 3:10 am
by Kevin Hendrick
Re: Helleberg / Geib
Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 9:08 am
by Ulli
Lectron wrote:Oh....Living happily unknowing while playing piston tubas with Geib
Whether they're called this or that, I seem to favor the sound I get from a
Geib style. I only have piston tubas
Me just contrarywise: I play all my tubas with a very originally Helleberg copy (SSH), mostly rotarys.
Ulli
Re: Helleberg / Geib
Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 10:10 am
by Untersatz
cktuba wrote:
It's also a rotary valve instrument.
I think that was the whole gist of Tuben's post!

Re: Helleberg / Geib
Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 12:34 pm
by cjk
What helleberg mouthpiece are you playing on your Alexander?
Re: Helleberg / Geib
Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2014 5:40 pm
by iiipopes
KiltieTuba wrote:iiipopes wrote:After seeing the top picture, "August" is definitely the adjective describing the tuba Mr. Helleberg is playing, as well as being his first name. So, instead of using the acronym BAT for a large tuba, if the mouthpiece is a "Helleberg," then the large tuba should be the "August."
That tuba August is playing isn't a BAT. I believe (and please correct me if I am wrong), that those rotary Conn tubas were closer to a 4/4 than a 6/4.
Even if it isn't a "BAT" as we consider that term today, contemporary to the picture, that tuba is still, "August."