jinbaoso - review interest? (SOUND FILES LINKED ON PAGE 6)

[TheHatTuba]

Bloke, please post what work you did to yours and discuss the tuning.

[eupher61]

Do it...I triple dog dare ya.

[Pat S]

I'd love to hear the gory details, as would many of those on the forum who play Chinese-manufactured instruments!

[Biggs]

yes please

[eupher61]

Joe, I can't find the previous thread...this is in what key??? I should be able to figure it out, but the current distractions aren't helping me concentrate.

[Dan Schultz]

as briefly as possible (bullet form)

BUILD:

I addressed all of the issues below: (snip) .....

Joe... this is pretty typical with many of the 'new' instruments available today. .... all of that work and you still consider this horn a 'descent buy'?

If someone was interested in having you make one of these things play for them.... how much would those repairs cost them?

[bisontuba]

Joe-
Now that the King piston CC tuba is done, I did drop my cimbasso off today at my repairman to have your 'mod's' done to my horn.....the 'triangle' brace sounds interesting...I'll be curious how you like it...
Mark

[Wyvern]

Wessex are already adding a brace at the point 'Bloke' mentions to our next batch of cimbasso.

We are getting very positive feedback from all that try the cimbasso - more than one professional commenting the Wessex is the best cimbasso he has ever played.

For those at ITEC, Blake Cooper will be playing on a Wessex cimbasso during his solo recital at 10am on Saturday May 24th

[bisontuba]

Hi-
I am enjoying playing the horn--very easy & fun to play. A definite winner!!
Mark

[Lingon]

How does the bell reacts if you play with the bell turned downwards instead of straight up, turned down about 120 degrees or something like some cimassonista does. It also has the advantage that the bell comes more in line with the other (slide)trombones in the section that way.

[bisontuba]

Hi-
The bell section has a slot where you can 'lock it' into place with the body section.

[Lingon]

Hmm, wouldn't it be better to have the possibility to use it at your own preferred angle? Like what is possible with other trombones?
Here is one example to illustrate:

[Wyvern]

Hmm, wouldn't it be better to have the possibility to use it at your own preferred angle? Like what is possible with other trombones?

A normal trombone connection would not be rigid enough for the weight of bell I would think

[Lingon]

Our cimbasso has a trombone style connection which works very well. I.e. the bent part is not movable but the coupling is trombone style. Put the instrument together in the angle you prefer and fasten the lock nut. The rigidity has to be in the bent part, I think, which Bloke pointed out in the pic?

[Lingon]

...not the least bit interested in different bell angles, any more than trombone players are interested in different bell angles...

Mmm, when I play trombone it is almost a must to be able to adjust the bell to slide angle even if some prefer the exact 90 deg angle between bell and slide. Otoh, when playing tuba I just put it in my lap and play. As I see the cimbasso as a member of the trombone section I think it is nice to have the sound come from approx the same angle as the rest of the trombones, for the best blend, even if they do not play with bells up. Otherwise it might react as a laser below the trombones. Otoh, the cimbasso with the bell up is absolutely great as the lowest trombone part when all trombones play the same style. Very very nice indeed.
So at least for me I would prefer to have the option to use the valved contrabass trombone with the bell in other angles than only up in the air. It is of course always possible to make a personal modification, especially as the jinbaoso seems to be so good to play.
Oh, did I say that the sound of a trombone section where a cimbasso plays the lowest part is great

[MartyNeilan]

When I'm playing this huge contraption, my fingers aren't anywhere near the bell rim.

Then how can you tell the difference between third and fourth position?

[bisontuba]

Hi-
If you want to experiment with how the bell rim reacts--lift your left shoulder up (like if you had football shoulder pads in) so it touches the bell while playing the instrument--very interesting....
Mark

[bisontuba]

A nice choice of instrument for this type of music-- the cimbasso revolution/evolution continues....
Mark (plus these clones are so good & easy to play, why not use it!)....

[cjk]

I find the cimbasso shape to be quite funny. They're enormous. The cases are huge. It seems to me that they *should* be wrapped more similarly to an American bell front baritone than the L shaped monstrosity that they are. They'd be easier to carry around, but then they'd also look like little tubas. If they looked like little tubas, or even worse, if they looked like little bell front tubas, they'd be much less popular.

[bisontuba]

Just ordered my bag...anything will be better than 'case-zilla'....
Mark