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Vaughan Williams Tuba Concerto and Woodwind Quintet
Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 8:23 pm
by Kory101
Hello,
I'm looking where I can purchase the arrangement of the Vaughan Williams Concerto with Woodwind Quintet accompaniment. Any information would be greatly appreciated!
http://vimeo.com/63582209
Cheers,
Kory
Re: Vaughan Williams Tuba Concerto and Woodwind Quintet
Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 11:14 pm
by Z-Tuba Dude
Re: Vaughan Williams Tuba Concerto and Woodwind Quintet
Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 11:34 pm
by Kory101
Z-Tuba Dude wrote:
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Re: Vaughan Williams Tuba Concerto and Woodwind Quintet
Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 11:43 pm
by Z-Tuba Dude
I just have trouble believing that a WW quintet reduction of the orchestra score, with a solo tuba could sound any good.
Re: Vaughan Williams Tuba Concerto and Woodwind Quintet
Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 11:49 pm
by Kory101
Z-Tuba Dude wrote:I just have trouble believing that a WW quintet reduction of the orchestra score, with a solo tuba could sound any good.
http://vimeo.com/63582209
Re: Vaughan Williams Tuba Concerto and Woodwind Quintet
Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 11:55 pm
by Art Hovey
I love it!
But he does wander a bit on the cadenza...
Re: Vaughan Williams Tuba Concerto and Woodwind Quintet
Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 2:41 pm
by TexTuba
Have you, by any chance, contacted him directly?
http://www.niu.edu/music/faculty/cschuchat.shtml
Re: Vaughan Williams Tuba Concerto and Woodwind Quintet
Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 4:29 pm
by Kory101
Yes, I have.
Re: Vaughan Williams Tuba Concerto and Woodwind Quintet
Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 9:34 pm
by eupher61
....I wonder if OUP knows about this. If they do, great, and they would likely publish it. If not, um...
But I like it. I only miss the low end of the basses, esp in the 2nd mvt. Otherwise, it works. IMNSHO
even pitch isn't bothering me, thanks to a nice leg. Obviously it's a very nice leg.
Re: Vaughan Williams Tuba Concerto and Woodwind Quintet
Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2014 12:45 pm
by Kory101
Found.
Thanks all
Re: Vaughan Williams Tuba Concerto and Woodwind Quintet
Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2014 3:04 pm
by eupho
Perhaps a slightly smaller tuba would have balanced better with the quintet.
Re: Vaughan Williams Tuba Concerto and Woodwind Quintet
Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 2:00 am
by jwjeffrey
snorlax wrote:I frequently do the second movement as a euphonium solo...I bet that euphonium & WW quintet would be a good fit. The transcription does not seem to be missing much of anything except the lower bass, as the bassoon has to stop at Bb below the staff. All in all, it's a great job of extracting the musical content from the accompaniment
There's a lesson in there for aspiring composers, BTW
Kory, did I see where you found it?
Yeah, the cadenzas are sorta random and I might have welcomed some more delicacy in the 2nd movement, but I like the aggressiveness in the outer movements.
Did OUP ever fix all the errors in the original tuba part? I assume everyone had Harvey Phillips's list of corrections? Harvey marked mine in 15 minutes and made me sound 10x better. Thanks, Harvey, for that and everything else. Miss ya madly.
Cute flautist in the vid, too.
Jim
I surprise this sounded as good as it did,also the flautist legs are very distracting.
Re: Vaughan Williams Tuba Concerto and Woodwind Quintet
Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2014 4:42 am
by hubert
Cannot find the publisher. Anyone can help??
Thanks,
Hubert
Re: Vaughan Williams Tuba Concerto and Woodwind Quintet
Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2014 5:15 am
by Z-Tuba Dude
Well, I have to say I was wrong!
I think that the arranger did a great job.
eupho wrote:Perhaps a slightly smaller tuba would have balanced better with the quintet.
I do, however, think that the scope of the piece is necessarily compromised, because a WW quintet does not have the tonal density to adequately balance with a tuba.
To exacerbate the situation, I think that the soloist in this performance plays it a little like there is a full orchestra behind him. If he were to lighten up a bit (maybe a smaller horn?), it would balance better, and make more sense.
No easy feat, to balance with a WW quintet!
Re: Vaughan Williams Tuba Concerto and Woodwind Quintet
Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2014 2:13 pm
by Timmm
hubert wrote:Cannot find the publisher. Anyone can help??
Thanks,
Hubert
I don't think it is published.
I came across the music a while back and this is on the bottom:
Re: Vaughan Williams Tuba Concerto and Woodwind Quintet
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 11:05 pm
by csherman
I've seen this accompaniment floating around, but I haven't heard a recording until now. I like it a lot! I think one would just have to be aware of the inherent balance issues and play accordingly. A smaller horn can help, but you could also just play a little lighter
IMHO I think this accompaniment has more color than the piano reduction. The 3rd movement is perfect for WW's! With the low register cap in the bassoon, I bet you could have the horn player take some stuff down an octave if they have the chops. Of course the video isn't of great quality, maybe the bassoon had a little more "bass" when heard live.