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I am working on a re-engraving a ton of Tuba Quartets. For each of them, I am making both Bass and Treble Clef Euphonium parts.

I am curious which people prefer, or do they like they to have both?

Well, one of my playmates can only read treble clef Euph parts-(other than that he's a great guy), so it is always nice to at least have the option of treble clef parts..

BVD Press wrote:I am working on a re-engraving a ton of Tuba Quartets. For each of them, I am making both Bass and Treble Clef Euphonium parts.

Unfortunately, there do seem to be a lot of euphonium players who only read treble clef.

Helpful to have both included, as some euph players prefer one or the other (depending who you have available).

Just a thought.

Good for our British friends, too!!! How about Eb and Bb tuba parts as well!!!!

Hi, Bryan

How about Eb and Bb tuba parts as well!!!!

Go ahead and flame away, but aren't the Eb and the C Tuba parts virtually the same thing? Yes I know there is a clef and key difference, but is there really a difference when you look at them?

I hope all is well in Columbus!

I MUCH prefer to have both treble and bass clef euphonium parts.

[quote="Bryan"]......like a bad dream. I was useless trying to play bass cleff on an EEb horn. I actually had to write in a treble cleff with the appropriate key signature and alter the accidentals to play it!! Maybe because I was a CC player first (no problem playing on a C horn in treble or reading Eb parts), or performing with no rehearsal (do it all the time, shouldn't be a problem), but something got me that day.

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I completely understand you. I am (was) a pro french horn player, and routinely play every possible or impossible transposition under the sun. Most of them on sight (except stuff like chromatic horn parts in H).
For some reason, when I played my first sounding bass clef parts on my BBb*, I was completely lost on where I was on the instrument. I had to just sit down and learn the fingerings

*around here they're either TC - middle C=H2 or BC transposed up a ninth - 2nd space C=H2

In Portugal, in windbands (filarmónicas) Tubas always play in trebble clef transposed to the key of the tuba (Bb or Eb). I dont know what is a C tuba or F tuba! lol. realy. never seen them.

When I play Classical repertoire in my BBb I have to reed Bass clef. I can do it. But I prefer the trebble clef system for two reasons: I am more used to it and I can play with the basic same fingerings all the tubas.

As for Euphoniums I prefer trebble cleff too. But here in Azores we use sometimes a C Euphonium. In that case we use Bass cleff. dont know why... I guess many of these things are tradition. nothing else...

I always like to have the option of Treble or Bass clef, both for Euph and tuba, as it allows more play time with different kinds of players. For my arrangements, I make sure I always have Treble and Bass parts for Euphonium, and Treble (for both Eb and Bb tuba) as well as Bass clef for Tubas.

BVD Press wrote:

How about Eb and Bb tuba parts as well!!!!

Go ahead and flame away, but aren't the Eb and the C Tuba parts virtually the same thing?

The flames of Fletcher be upon you and your kin! That is one of the most closely guarded secrets in TUBADOM and you've ruined it!!!

Columbus is great! New Zilincik baby in April!!

Hoo-Hoo!

corbasse wrote: I completely understand you. I am (was) a pro french horn player, and routinely play every possible or impossible transposition under the sun. Most of them on sight (except stuff like chromatic horn parts in H).
For some reason, when I played my first sounding bass clef parts on my BBb*, I was completely lost on where I was on the instrument. I had to just sit down and learn the fingerings

Ha ha...I have fun with my trumpet playing friends; when I start talking about different fingerings for the different tubas, and then launch into how it's not really all that different from reading different transpositions on horn, their eyes roll back in their heads. It is a great pleasure to bring a trumpet player to a state of total befuddlement.

MA, who also knows a zillion sets of fingerings and who also has trouble with Horn in H Basso. (or even A basso, for that matter)

knuxie wrote:When I first changed from trumpet to euph

Same story here, started on trumpet in grade school, changed to Euph for high school. Thus TC. I've attempted to learn BC a couple times, I can't sight read BC so I always opt for TC when music is being handed out. Seems about 50/50 for euph players here in the States.

Bob

When arranging music for TubaXmas, it seems that about half prefer treble clef Euph parts. Although I had a few available, no-one seemed to request treble tuba parts. I guess the British stayed home.
Don S.

MaryAnn wrote:...
Ha ha...I have fun with my trumpet playing friends; when I start talking about different fingerings for the different tubas, and then launch into how it's not really all that different from reading different transpositions on horn, their eyes roll back in their heads. It is a great pleasure to bring a trumpet player to a state of total befuddlement.......

I have deduced that my problem was that I was torn between transposing a whole tone up reading BC (a common transposition for me, but not in BC), and transposing a whole tone down in TC, using Bb french horn fingerings (an extremely common transposition, but adding a few steps).