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Cerveny Emperor Euphonium

Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2014 10:38 pm
by eupho
Does anyone have any experience with this euphonium or own one?

Re: Cerveny Emperor Euphonium

Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2014 4:11 pm
by ghmerrill
Look here, where they are mentioned from time to time: http://www.dwerden.com/forum/forum.php#.U5IgcdLN3n8" target="_blank" target="_blank.

There has never been a huge degree of enthusiasm for them, but I recall some postings on Dave's site about more recent models.

Re: Cerveny Emperor Euphonium

Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2014 2:52 am
by hubert
I have playtested it a year ago. Soundwise excellent, if you are looking for a dark and big sound. I would say not inferior to the Besson Prestige in this respect. Intonation as good/ bad as most euphoniums (except Yamaha and Willson): so mediocre. Workmanship/finish not what you would call "top of the bill" (but in line with most Amati/Cerveny products and given the price it looked not too bad).

[I must admit, I bought a Sterling Virtuoso myself for a substantially higher price and had to discover that the workmanship/finish was definitely not better than that of the Cerveny, rather worse!!!]

These Cerveny made instruments are also sold as "Geneva Brass" by the UK company with that same name. A little more expensive, they offer more "customization". Look at the website of Geneva Brass.

Hubert

Re: Cerveny Emperor Euphonium

Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2014 1:32 pm
by eupho
Adams certainly knew what they were doing signing Dave and Martin.

Re: Cerveny Emperor Euphonium

Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2014 3:07 pm
by iiipopes
bloke wrote:The fact that players (and manufacturers catering to them) have clung so tightly to the Blaikley System says a lot.
The sun never sets on the British (Euphonium) Empire!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHNfvJc99YY

Re: Cerveny Emperor Euphonium

Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2014 1:51 pm
by ghmerrill
To go in a different direction, here is a Cerveny euphonium I would dearly love to have (despite potential intonation problems), but almost certainly will never be able to afford:

http://www.cerveny.biz/bariton/cerveny_bariton_cep.php

If you want to avoid sycophancy, go for this one.

Re: Cerveny Emperor Euphonium

Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2014 2:32 pm
by Chuck Jackson
And the Winner is:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUXBrek5N9g" target="_blank

Nice playing, nicer looking!!!!

Chuck"chuffed"Jackson

Re: Cerveny Emperor Euphonium

Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2014 3:45 pm
by Rick F
Chuck Jackson wrote:And the Winner is:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUXBrek5N9g" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank

Nice playing, nicer looking!!!!

Chuck"chuffed"Jackson
Ah yes, nicely done! That's Becky Smith of "Bones Apart". I noticed she didn't use any vibrato normally heard by British brass.

Re: Cerveny Emperor Euphonium

Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2014 3:48 pm
by Chuck Jackson
Rick F wrote:I noticed she didn't use any vibrato normally heard by British brass.
Yes, she left it where it belongs. If I remember correctly, there was gentleman who had the record for the most number of times playing Euphonium in the particular piece at the Proms. Anyone know who that might have been?

Chuck"not a fan of "institutionalized" vibrato"Jackson

Re: Cerveny Emperor Euphonium

Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2014 4:18 pm
by dwerden
The previous poster's link does not really resolve to a topic. Here is a post with my impressions of the Emperor. Note that it was not a full test, but was more of a 10-minute impression:

http://www.dwerden.com/forum/showthread ... ny-Emperor