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I thought you would be interested in seeing these pictures of straight F cimbasso we have had specially made for a customer.

He wanted it like a giant valve trombone and that is what it is. To play you can have pin on end resting on a chair, or stand in front of the player and at rest it fits nicely on contrabass trombone stand.

I don't know if this is configuration that will appeal to anyone else? It is certainly easier to move around - more like large trombone and I like the look of it.

If you haven't boxed it up yet, you might try for another picture, with more scale cues. The first picture hints at how big this thing is, but it's ambiguous.

Looks like fun!

What is the purpose of the rod sticking straight out (and how far does it go)? Just for supporting it when resting? Seems... dangerous?

Also, how heavy is it? Seems like a lot of those rotary trombones get complaints about weight and balance. I also wonder how comfortable the 5th valve is...?

I suspect the end pin is for supporting the weight while the horn is resting in the trombone stand. I could imagine quite a tortional strain on the instrument without.

It looks very front heavy.

Ah, of course, a stand stand!

Way cool.

Jonathan-
All I can think of is HEAVY--and how long until that peg snaps/bends off from the weight....
Mark

bort wrote:What is the purpose of the rod sticking straight out (and how far does it go)? Just for supporting it when resting? Seems... dangerous?

It's for jousting, of course! The horn looks awesome, but I'm not certain that I'm quite hardcore enough to carry such a beast.

It's really awesome to see how you're willing to build custom horns for your customers!

emcallaway wrote:It's really awesome to see how you're willing to build custom horns for your customers!

Absolutely. This entrepreneurial thing that Jonathan does is incredible. Who else would produce a modern-day ophicleide against all odds?!

As long as you're doing custom work, would there be any chance of getting just a valve section that works with the bell section of the F contrabass trombone? Not sure if that would even be possible/work well with smaller bore, but it might be useful for college trombone choirs to have options depending on the players available and their relative slide/valve technique....

-T. J.

Thank you for your comments guys

The straight cimbasso is much the same size as contrabass trombone in F (unfortunately I have not currently got one of those to do comparison picture). Weight of the cimbasso is 12 ½ lb, so quite difficult to hold out while playing. I have found experimenting that the centre of gravity is between 2rd and 3rd valve, so if had support attached around there, it would balance quite well. I think I have seen bass trombone player with such support leg? So maybe one of those could be attached and it would then work quite well. Operating the valves does not seem a problem - the angle much like rotary valve trumpet.

A cb slide trbn bell piece with it's valves plus an added straight 5 valve valve section would be very heavy to use, so maybe that would more be something for the local gym

However, Ergobone, http://www.ergobrass.com/, is one of those supporting devices that might be used. Available in different configurations. In the UK Phil Parker seems to sell the stuff, http://www.philparker.biz/index.php/war ... r-773.html