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Piggy in Quintet?
Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 12:55 pm
by eupho
Has anyone liked playing a Cerveny Piggy in Quintet?
Re: Piggy in Quintet?
Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 3:45 pm
by tbn.al
What is he holding in this old pic?
From 2000.jpg
Re: Piggy in Quintet?
Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 4:12 pm
by Kory101
tbn.al wrote:What is he holding in this old pic?
From 2000.jpg
That's a PT4
Re: Piggy in Quintet?
Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 7:31 pm
by hbcrandy
When I was in school in Philadelphia in the 1970's, Paul Krzywicki used a piggy for brass quintet.
Re: Piggy in Quintet?
Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 10:12 pm
by Alex C
A friend of mine played a Piggy in his faculty quintet for several years, I thought it sounded great. It's a big sound but not going to smother the rest of the group.
The Piggy has it's own set of peculiarities but that wouldn't interfere with having it in a quintet.
Re: Piggy in Quintet?
Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2014 12:29 am
by eupher61
With the right mouthpiece it's great. Now, don't ask what the right mouthpiece is.
Re: Piggy in Quintet?
Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2014 8:13 am
by imperialbari
Re: Piggy in Quintet?
Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2014 11:58 am
by eupho
Yes, Craig does sound great on the Piggy. Thanks for all the positive input.
Re: Piggy in Quintet?
Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2014 12:29 pm
by bort
I've never spent a lot of *serious* time with a Piggy, but I've never felt all that comfortable while playing them. They are SO short, the bell is right there at your ear, and I think that really messes with me. I also tried one where the leadpipe was so high, I wasn't really sure how to get my face to the mouthpiece without having the bell get in the way.
I forget who said it, but there's an old saying something like "The best and worst tubas I've ever played are both Cerveny Piggies."
Re: Piggy in Quintet?
Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2014 1:53 pm
by eutubabone
When I was the bass trombonist for the Greensboro Symphony(NC), 82-85, Keith Yarborough played a Piggy. He was also in the Winston-Salem Symphony and the brass quintets for both orchestras. We played Mahler 1,2, 9, Bruckner symphonies, etc. Larger orchestral works, Rite of Spring, Scynthian Suite ( Greensboro & North Carolina combined),etc. On the recordings I never had any problem hearing Keith over the orchestra, when neccessary, performing on the Piggy. I've got one now and the only way I'd go with anything else ( someone could give me the $$$$$$, right?)would be a 1293 Miraphone, 6450, Dillon custom C, or a Yamayork. By the way, I've retired from the school job (whoopee!) and, anybody need a tuba sub? All styles, orchestral, german, jazz, etc. Member 148 AFM Atlanta, Ga.
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Vokes
Re: Piggy in Quintet?
Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2014 8:19 am
by Roger Lewis
In my opinion the piggy can be the perfect all around instrument. It was my only CC tuba for many years and I did a lot of work on it and still have it. It got me into Tanglewood and has been used in a number of brass quintets since about 1974. Here's a link to a recording of Dave Dzubay's Brass Quintet, first movement and I was using my piggy on this recording.
http://pronovamusic.com/sounds/1habanera.mp3" target="_blank
Roger
Re: Piggy in Quintet?
Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2014 10:25 am
by ppalan
Roger Lewis wrote:a recording of Dave Dzubay's Brass Quintet, first movement and I was using my piggy on this recording.
Nicely done. Bravo!
Pete

Re: Piggy in Quintet?
Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2014 5:48 pm
by tbn.al
Now THAT piggy sounds mighty fine in THAT quintet. Just goes to prove, "it ain't whatcha play, it's how's you plays it!"
Re: Piggy in Quintet?
Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2014 6:49 pm
by hbcrandy
tbn.al wrote:Just goes to prove, "it ain't whatcha play, it's how's you plays it!"
Precisely. I have heard large Holtons and Yorks played in brass quintets by artists who had full control of the instruments and a concept of what sound is best for a brass quintet. They sounded wonderfully. This is not to say that, with a smaller tuba, blending with the quintet would be easier. But, it can be done with any equipment.