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http://www.amazon.com/Rs-Berkeley-Lo-br ... words=tuba" target="_blank

http://www.amazon.com/Trombone-Pack-Bas ... e+trombone" target="_blank

Although I would never make such a recommendation... these may be attractive for a small school program.

This mortifies me.

KiltieTuba wrote:

Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:This mortifies me.

Why?

It's just so cheap that there has to be something wrong with it.

Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:

KiltieTuba wrote:

Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:This mortifies me.

Why?

It's just so cheap that there has to be something wrong with it.

Its made in china, and these are meant to be disposable instruments for beginners, once they decide the to get serious then they will get their own brand name stuff.

Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote: This mortifies me.

KiltieTuba wrote: Why?

Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote: It's just so cheap that there has to be something wrong with it.

Jose the tuba player wrote: Its made in china, and these are meant to be disposable instruments for beginners, once they decide the to get serious then they will get their own brand name stuff.

Any instrument is disposable ... if you treat it that way. As the doctor said, "don't do that!"

I guess the only thing I have never understood is a valve trombone. I just don't get it. Why not play a baritone? Maybe there is some nuance I am missing but I have never understood why they even exist.

Do you mean "why not play baritone (the small, somewhat cylindrical saxhorn commonly associated with British brass bands)", or "why not play euphonium"? What explains the band arrangements that call for both these instruments and give them different parts? How about the simultaneous existence of the trumpet, cornet and flugelhorn - that's a head-scratcher, isn't it?

I'm surprised to see so many cheap Chinese valve trombones on ebay etc., but I don't know, maybe banda is bigger than I think.

deholder wrote:I guess the only thing I have never understood is a valve trombone. I just don't get it. Why not play a baritone? Maybe there is some nuance I am missing but I have never understood why they even exist.

I don't hear many baritones sounding like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-6nZZrs9Xk" target="_blank

To be fair, though, that belongs in the "exception that proves the rule" category. If that's what it takes to make the valve trombone a desirable instrument in its own right, is to have it premium custom manufactured with rotary valves and a slide, then it isn't really a valuable instrument in its own right - QED.

I'd rather point to Juan Tizol, for example, playing a regular old valve trombone. Like in this Harry James Orchestra excerpt. Now there's a lot of other good stuff we could dig out, but this is so mellow and arguably playable on trombone or baritone, you can really see what you get with valve trombone. (I'm not saying a baritone would work, just saying it's close as it's ever going to get.)