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Quint valve fingering chart

Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 7:26 am
by bububassboner
Good day,
I'm making plans to go try a tuba with a quint valve and have no idea how to use that. The horn has six valve. Fifth valve can be either a flat half or flat whole step and the sixth valve is the quint valve. Anybody have a fingering chart for such a horn?

Thanks in advance

Re: Quint valve fingering chart

Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 10:44 pm
by cjk
Quint valve is 4+5 by itself and I'll call that 5th.
Assuming 6th valve is a flat half step and starting at low C going down:


C: 4
B: 4,6
Bb: 5
A: 5,6
Ab: 1,2,5
G: 3,5,6
Gb: 2,4,5
F: open or 1,2,4,5?
Iirc, you can get down to around D with valves. That's all completely from memory. It has been many years since I had a tuba like that.
Take a tuner along. You may find better solutions. I assume this is one of the many MW Hilgers models?

You may find it easier on your brain to just try it out as a 5 valve tuba, just only press down 5 when you want 4+5.

Re: Quint valve fingering chart

Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2014 10:30 am
by swillafew
Who makes these? And why?

Re: Quint valve fingering chart

Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2014 11:17 am
by bort
Cerveny... I've only seen them on some F tubas, as a way to help out in the low register (LOTS more fingering options).

Re: Quint valve fingering chart

Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2014 2:13 pm
by Kevin Hendrick
bort wrote:Cerveny... I've only seen them on some F tubas, as a way to help out in the low register (LOTS more fingering options).
They also made a C with a quint 5th valve (the 682) -- not sure if it's still in production.

Re: Quint valve fingering chart

Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2014 3:36 pm
by cjk
swillafew wrote:Who makes these? And why?
Meinl Weston made Walter Hilgers model F tubas with this feature.

Pictures of a young Walter Hilgers can be found holding one of the Cerveny F tubas with this valve setup.

I assume he used one of the Cervenys and liked the setup so he continued to use it rather than learning something else.