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York 'Master' Tubas

Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2014 12:32 am
by Dan Schultz
Who marketed the York 'Master' tubas? It's clear to me that the York 'Master' tubas were built in the Bohm & Meinl factory along with the Marzan and Nirschl tubas but I would be interested in the timelines and how the York name was acquired. Some of these horns were marketed by Custom Music under different names.

Re: York 'Master' Tubas

Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2014 5:48 am
by imperialbari

Re: York 'Master' Tubas

Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2014 7:28 am
by imperialbari
Mine is packed down due to restoration of my home, so I cannot tell you the diameter of the tenon.

However this York Master collar is different from most American made equivalents insofar that socket and tenon both are conical.

Klaus

Re: York 'Master' Tubas

Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2014 8:58 am
by EdFirth
I'm pretty sure that Kanstul has made at least one so the tooling should be there. Dan,I used to play the detachable upright bell from my Marzan on my Master Model and it fit perfectly.Ed

Re: York 'Master' Tubas

Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2014 10:19 am
by Dan Schultz
lost wrote:What is the bell tenon size and are reproduction uprights bells made for this line?
Here is a sketch of the Bohm & Meinl (aka 'York Master', Marzan, etc.) bell tenon. It is indeed conical as Klaus pointed out.

I don't know of anyone tooled to make this tenon but it could be reproduced fairly easily. The only problem with turning a piece of this size is the horrendous scrap if done from a solid piece of brass. Rolling a ring and brazing the ends shut would be the way to go unless someone out there is making a brass tube that's close to size.

Of further interest is that the bell stem goes all the way through the tenon as opposed to being soldered into a shallow groove at the top of most bell tenons.

Re: York 'Master' Tubas

Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2014 9:07 pm
by Bandmaster
1955 York Master on the left and 1939 York on the right. Make your own conclusions...
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The York Master has smaller diameter valves and very slightly smaller diameter valve tubing. Maybe .748 vs .750 for the real York.

Re: York 'Master' Tubas

Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 12:06 pm
by imperialbari
The seller’s information is wrong on at least one point:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/York-Master-BBb ... 604943001?

Re: York 'Master' Tubas

Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 2:56 pm
by Dan Schultz
imperialbari wrote:The seller’s information is wrong on at least one point:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/York-Master-BBb ... 604943001?
Yes... It's for certain that the horn in question WAS NOT made in Grand Rapids. And... I would think it was made in the 60's or 70's rather than the suggested dates.