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Does anyone know where I could find a public domain version of Petite Suite for brass septet by J. Sibelius? It was written in the 1890s and should be PD, but I can not find it on IMSLP. (I did find a Hal Leonard version, but I need a digital version ASAP).

Thanks!

Ben

Hi!

I guess you might be looking for the arrangement by the late Holger Fransman, "the father of Finnish horn playing". His septet arrangements are still under a publisher, Fennica Gehrman and sold by various other companies. Doesn't seem like public domain.

Hope you find the music!

Regards,
Martin
Finland

Sibelius died in 1957, so none of his music is yet in the public domain. Unless the copyright was sold to an editor in a given year to be seen in the first edition.

Klaus

imperialbari wrote:Sibelius died in 1957, so none of his music is yet in the public domain. Unless the copyright was sold to an editor in a given year to be seen in the first edition.
Klaus

The above is in no way way correct. The copyright laws in many countries differ. Much of Sibelius' music is in the public domain across the globe. This would not include Europe and possibly other countries as well, but others can look this up.

Some countries use the copyright date to determine public domain, death date of a composer or some other formula.

By which rules is the music by Sibelius in the public domain in the US?

Anything with a publication date prior to 1923 is in the public domain in the US. Finlandia (1899 or 1900) falls in the public domain in the US, but not Germany for example.

http://imslp.org/wiki/Finlandia,_Op.26_(Sibelius,_Jean)

Here is a quick reference guide:

http://imslp.org/wiki/IMSLP:Copyright_Made_Simple

As an example of differences between countries, Vaughan Williams is in the Public Domain in Canada and Japan, but not in the US and Europe.

Stepping on thin ice here, and will probably end up getting humbled.

Anyhow, I've been told that Sibelius made his deals with mostly German publishers during his lifetime. For instance the very famous Finlandia I believe is c/o Breitkopf & Härtel in this corner of the world. (http://www.breitkopf.com" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank) But as stated, rights and publishing most likely varies a bit according to copyright laws.

Hope you find the music for the septet. Brass septet music in this form is very fun and rewarding to play! If a PD digital version is found, that would be good news for you!

Regards,
Martin

Bryan - you are referring to a specific work or works? Some VW works are PD in the US.

e.g. http://imslp.org/wiki/The_Wasps,_Aristo ... ms,_Ralph) Published in 1914 by Schott

Hi Mike,

I should have been a bit clearer. For VW, some of his works are indeed PD (Public Domain) in the US because we use the publication date. In Japan and Canada, all of the VW works are in PD. This includes his Tuba Concerto.

As a side note, I have been spending a bit of time listening to VW because a lot of his music is PD and would be great for tuba or tuba ensembles. He was a such a good composer.