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Help ID'ing VMI Tuba
Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2015 5:59 pm
by byebyetuba
http://imgur.com/a/FBZdD#rJtXBmt
Hi, I got the above pictured tuba in 1996. Life happened, and now I'm looking to sell this. However, I'm having trouble identifying what model it is and what a reasonable asking price would be. It's in excellent condition, except for the small ding where I sadly dropped my mouthpiece on the side (shown in pictures). Thanks for any help that can be offered.
Re: Help ID'ing VMI Tuba
Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2015 6:02 pm
by toobagrowl
VMI 2103 BBb. Those tubas were also under the "Musica" stencil. Great tubas

Re: Help ID'ing VMI Tuba
Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2015 6:14 pm
by byebyetuba
Thanks for the prompt reply! Is $4000 a reasonable price for such a tuba? Is that even a reasonable question to ask here?

Re: Help ID'ing VMI Tuba
Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2015 6:19 pm
by toobagrowl
^ Sure thing. $4000 is reasonable for that tuba, if a bit on the high side. Looks like it is still in very good condition; does it include a case? Usually those tubas go from $2500 - $4000 in good/excellent used shape.

Re: Help ID'ing VMI Tuba
Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2015 6:22 pm
by byebyetuba
It has a gig bag. If I had to ship it though, that obviously wouldn't work so well. Besides the ding in the photos, I'd say it's basically like-new. But then...of course I'd say that! Thanks again for the feedback. I'll be listing it here soon.
Re: Help ID'ing VMI Tuba
Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2015 6:28 pm
by imperialbari
If you go to this entry in the index of my Yahoo-based brass gallery,
B&S-VMI-BBb tubas circa 1996
you will see it called the 3103 on that catalogue page.
Klaus
Re: Help ID'ing VMI Tuba
Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2015 6:42 pm
by byebyetuba
Thanks for the response Klaus. I sent a group join request for that group so that I can view it.
Re: Help ID'ing VMI Tuba
Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2015 6:52 pm
by toobagrowl
Just so ya know: VMI = B&S. Same manufacturer.
VMI 2103 BBb:
http://www.music123.com/brass-instrumen ... 4-bbb-tuba
I guess the 3103 is for the B&S brand. But it's the same tuba, and like I said earlier, it was also under the "Musica" stencil (UMI's imported name for that tuba). VMI/B&S is probably one of the most stenciled brands in the tuba world

Re: Help ID'ing VMI Tuba
Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2015 7:01 pm
by byebyetuba
Ok, yeah, both of those look the same and almost exactly like mine, except that the images you both posted show what looks like a lyre holder above the thumb ring. Mine does *not* have a lyre holder. Could that make mine a different model, or is it most likely the same thing, just without that option?
Re: Help ID'ing VMI Tuba
Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2015 7:05 pm
by toobagrowl
^ I'm guessing there may be tiny differences depending on who imports/deals them. But pretty much the same tuba without the lyre holder.
Re: Help ID'ing VMI Tuba
Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2015 7:08 pm
by byebyetuba
Ok, thank you. I think that's probably good enough for me. When I list it, I just want to be as accurate as possible with what I list it as.
Re: Help ID'ing VMI Tuba
Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2015 7:10 pm
by imperialbari
Maybe the importer reckoned that US BBb marching mostly happens with sousaphones.
Klaus
Re: Help ID'ing VMI Tuba
Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 4:14 pm
by jeopardymaster
Not to be a downer, but I would not expect to get $4000 for that model in BBb. The differentiation between them and the Chinese horns just isn't that great these days, in my opinion - especially when the new Chinese one is around $2000 less.
Re: Help ID'ing VMI Tuba
Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 5:38 pm
by toobagrowl
jeopardymaster wrote:Not to be a downer, but I would not expect to get $4000 for that model in BBb. The differentiation between them and the Chinese horns just isn't that great these days, in my opinion - especially when the new Chinese one is around $2000 less.
Well like I said, $4000 is on the high side, but at least it's the real-deal VMI in excellent condition. AFAIK, there are no copies of this particular rotary BBb tuba. The Chinese tuba you are thinking about is the B&S 'Sonora' copy, which is a different model rotary BBb tuba. And you can usually get the
real Sonora BBb in good used shape for the same or less than the Chinese copy
If I had the money, I'd still get this VMI BBb tuba anyday over the Chinese models.
Re: Help ID'ing VMI Tuba
Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 6:37 pm
by bort
Same thing as a B&S PT-2, I believe.