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York / King tuba IDs (Baltimore Brass)

Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2015 11:14 am
by bighonkintuba
Can anyone provide the model #s for the King 3 rotary valve, recording bell and the York(?) fixed recording bell tubas at Baltimore Brass? Any links to detailed information that are handy would also be appreciated.

http://www.baltimorebrass.net/index.php?cat=5" target="_blank

Thanks!

Re: York / King tuba IDs (Baltimore Brass)

Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2015 3:26 pm
by bighonkintuba
It appears that the King is a 1290
http://www.hnwhite.com/King/Low%20Brass ... 0Large.jpg" target="_blank

Re: York / King tuba IDs (Baltimore Brass)

Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2015 12:32 pm
by iiipopes
And they are both probably @ .687 bore and both were probably designed by F. A. Reynolds when he worked first for J. W. York, then later for H. N. White.

Re: York / King tuba IDs (Baltimore Brass)

Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2015 1:10 pm
by bighonkintuba
Thanks.

The King brochure and BBC indicate a bore of .745-.750"; .750" for the York, according to BBC.

Has anyone played either of these two horns, at BBC or other examples? Any impressions, criticisms etc. would be appreciated. I'm looking for a large bore BBb horn with a recording bell (doesn't have to be detachable).

Re: York / King tuba IDs (Baltimore Brass)

Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2015 1:51 pm
by EdFirth
My section leader in the West Point band had one of the rotary Kings with three valves before I got there and he thought it was the best horn he'd ever played. I own a four valve model that makes a great sound and not too much slide pilling. Ed

Re: York / King tuba IDs (Baltimore Brass)

Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2015 5:21 pm
by bighonkintuba
Thanks Ed!

Re: York / King tuba IDs (Baltimore Brass)

Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2015 8:17 pm
by iiipopes
Well, both York and King did make .750 bore horns. They are better known for the smaller bore.

Re: York / King tuba IDs (Baltimore Brass)

Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2015 3:35 am
by Rick Denney
iiipopes wrote:And they are both probably @ .687 bore and both were probably designed by F. A. Reynolds when he worked first for J. W. York, then later for H. N. White.
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Not in this case. The King 1290 series used 3/4" bore tubing, and are large instruments (they are called Monsters for a reason). The 3-valve that BB has is particularly sweet--I know its former owner.

Rick "noting that person also has a 4-valve 1291 that is superb" Denney

Re: York / King tuba IDs (Baltimore Brass)

Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2015 10:49 am
by bighonkintuba
Rick Denney wrote:Not in this case. The King 1290 series used 3/4" bore tubing, and are large instruments (they are called Monsters for a reason). The 3-valve that BB has is particularly sweet--I know its former owner.Denney
Feeling like I may have to take a trip to Baltimore...

Re: York / King tuba IDs (Baltimore Brass)

Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2015 12:11 pm
by imperialbari
I don’t see the York behind the given link (fixed bell front).

Klaus

Re: York / King tuba IDs (Baltimore Brass)

Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2015 12:19 pm
by bighonkintuba
The BBC link?

I can see the picture now, but there are times when BBC pictures don't pop up. Sometimes I can click on a picture for a much larger version, but not now.
imperialbari wrote:I don’t see the York behind the given link (fixed bell front).

Klaus

Re: York / King tuba IDs (Baltimore Brass)

Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2015 12:37 pm
by imperialbari
Found it. I was cheated by the York reference, which does not occur in the text.

http://www.baltimorebrass.net/picture.p ... ts&id=1922

Is this a detached bell that has been soldered to the body?

Klaus

Re: York / King tuba IDs (Baltimore Brass)

Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2015 12:52 pm
by imperialbari
I am still puzzled by the matte ring around the top end of the stack.

Klaus

Re: York / King tuba IDs (Baltimore Brass)

Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2015 12:54 pm
by bighonkintuba
How was the valve action? Did you check out the piston plating? Are there any major dents on the backside? Do you think the horn needs any work to be a daily player or is good to go as is? Thanks.
lost wrote:curious Hal why you would pass on the york? klaus, the bell is original and fixed. I was at baltimore recently and tried it.

huge horn and nice big glorious york sound. :!: