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Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 1:07 am
by chevy68chv
To each his own. I was never very fond of the Jupiter that I played for a year in high school. I'm not really that familiar with their product line though.
Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 1:49 am
by tubeast
What could be recommended to you greatly depends on the kind(s) of music you´re going play on your horn and how you want to blend that in the sound of the ensemble(s) you´re going to play in. Especially this refers to the size of horn you want to go for. Many people consider a mid-sized tuba for general playing, as it will produce enough sound to support a large ensemble or small orchestra, while the more delicate playing called for in a quintet isn´t that hard to do either.
So what are you up to ?
Hans
Jupiter tubas
Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 8:45 am
by Sean Greene
The last time I played a Jupiter tuba was as a beginning tuba player in the 8th grade. It was, besides the 3/4 sized Holtons at Robertsville Junior High School, the only tuba I had ever seen. I was told by my band teacher, a tuba player, that it was good, well-made and had a good sound.....and all this was true. I liked playing it. I also liked gross-out movies, skateboards and laser tag.
Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 9:18 am
by Matt G
I smell a....

Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 9:42 am
by TexTuba
Jupiter tubas aren't sweet. Last time I checked, they tasted quite odd...

All joking aside I've never liked them.
Ralph
Never played a Jupiter
Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 10:10 am
by Uncle Buck
I've never played a Jupiter, but why on earth would you want a 6/4 horn for a brass quintet? Very bad idea.
Never played a Jupiter
Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 10:14 am
by Uncle Buck
I've never played a Jupiter, but why on earth would you want a 6/4 horn for a brass quintet? Very bad idea.
Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 11:11 am
by Matt G
bloke wrote:I prefer
this over Jupiter, and - rather than "6/4" - I actually prefer the "fun size".

I prefer Uranus, well maybe not yours, for the best tooting.
Let's add to this post some more.
Hengshui Star
Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 2:36 pm
by Paul S
I have always noticed how similar the Jupiter & Yorkbrunner seemed to be. They both seem to be mostly brass and able to accept a Conn Helleberg mouthpiece in the receiver.
You might want to compare the Hengshui Star and the Thein too as they are mostly brass as well as having moveable tuning slides just like the Jupiter and Yorkbrunners.
I also seem to recall hearing somewhere that most High School quintet tuba player's parents & sophomore trombone players both typically lean more to the Gold Brass Thein CC when compared to other makes although the Hengshui Star model XA-A was quite close in polls too. I could be mistaken though as this was largely second hand information. Your best bet is to try to play them all and see which blends best with your quintet.
Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 3:55 pm
by Rick Denney
duuuuuuud! my teacher tol me that york is, like, the best tuba ever made and, like, any tuba made by york is what u have to have to get a 1 at solo contest. i just told my parents than the york is what they had to buy me. they, you know, like feel guilty for never, like, ever being home, so they said theyd by me one. but, like, i could NEVER find a york in a music store. this guy tol me that yorks were still made, but in swisserland or somewhere else in asia. at least i think thats where swisserland is. i found a picture of it and took it down the music store and they showed me, like, a zillion tubas that looked just like it. all of them had the pistons on the front and were silver just like that york. the only silver one they had that was made in asia was called jupiter. i played it and it sounded just like the york though. even my teacher said it sounded good enough to be in a symphony (not to pat myself on the back or anything). so a had my parents buy it for me. and, it like ROCKS, dude.
rick "yur tuba totally sucks, dude

" denney
Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 4:02 pm
by TexTuba
OUCH.

Really LMAO on that one..
Ralph

Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 4:10 pm
by Chuck(G)
Darned if I'll add anything to this stupid thread...

Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 4:42 pm
by Charlie Goodman
I second the troll idea.
Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 4:52 pm
by MaryAnn
Troll-aruba. BUT!
well when i started playing tuba 3 yrs ago i went in the local music store and all they had were these big silver bach things with pistons on them. i didn't like them so i started reading the bbs and looking at web sites and ended up with not just one but TWO nice yellow lacquer tubas with rotor valves that i like better. my mom wouldn't pop for them tho (she's 84 and kinda tight with her money now) so i had to use my own money and eat less soda and candy to pay for them, also i couldn't buy a new car neither so i still drive my ratty old truck.
MA, who isn't as funny as rick or as smart as rick but who has fun anyhoo.
Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 5:10 pm
by ThomasDodd
MaryAnn wrote:MA, who isn't as funny as rick or as smart as rick but who has fun anyhoo.
was that a typo there? fells like a missing 's' somwhere.
At least when I make comments like that more s'es get used

Balance ...
Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 1:03 am
by Kevin Hendrick
tubaboy2005 wrote:... Everyone knows that its all about the biggest thing you can find ... Why does it matter how big I sound in quintet?
Does the phrase "plays well with others" sound familiar at all? A 6/4 tuba can be great --
in the proper context (i.e., a
large band or orchestra). In a small group, it's hard to "throttle back" that big an instrument to blend with the rest of the group (instead of just stomping all over them). I'm well aware of the difficulty -- I've played a large 5/4 (bordering on 6/4) horn for over 30 years, often in brass quintets & other small groups, and it takes a
lot of awareness of the "group sound" to keep from overpowering them. With a big horn in a small group, you don't
ever get to "open it up", really. It would be much easier with a 4/4, easier yet with a 3/4 (for instance, a Mirafone 184). Something to think about ...

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 5:48 am
by Anterux
tubaboy2005 wrote:austuba wrote:
BUT!!!!!!!!! they are too big for brass quintet, you have to realise that if you get even a 4/4 CC or BBb there is probabily a 70% chance it will be too big for and quintet!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thats just crazy talk. Everyone knows that its all about the biggest thing you can find. Im not quite sure what you mean. Why does it matter how big I sound in quintet?
Look tubaboy2005, i think all advice You got here is indeed good advice. It's up to you now to do what You think is best. i dont know if You play well or not but i can only suspect, for what You say here, that You have much to learn about musicality and You want a big tuba to match the size of your ego.
i hope you think about all what was said here.
Best success to Your quintet.
Sorry for my English.
Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 1:02 pm
by Rick Denney
MaryAnn wrote:MA, who isn't as funny as rick or as smart as rick
In my dreams.
Rick "still trying to figure out how to curl his lips in to play high notes" Denney
Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 2:04 pm
by MaryAnn
Rick Denney wrote:MaryAnn wrote:MA, who isn't as funny as rick or as smart as rick
In my dreams.
Rick "still trying to figure out how to curl his lips in to play high notes" Denney
Well, I AM prettier.

Jupiter VS Yorkbrunner??????
Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 4:13 pm
by tubarnak
If you are really serious about the comparison
I haven't played much on the YBs but I've played on a few big Jupiters and a Nirschl and well, both makes were a world apart for everything except volume capabilities i.e. intonation, sound qualities, evenness of response for all range, mechanical etc. I would think price ranges are pretty different too. Hirschbrunners and Nirschls are really top notch tubas.
It would probably come down to how much mony you're willing to spend... If you're like me, that probably means huge amounts of dough for something you don't really need, especially if it's for quintet!
PS Very nice, Bloke
