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Postby Casca Grossa » Mon Aug 03, 2015 9:16 am

Being summer and lots of parades going on, I've noticed a trend of helicons outnumbering other tuba shaped objects and I must admit, I'm feeling a little envious. I went to a local parade on Saturday and I saw 5 helicons, 3 BBb tubas and 0 sousaphones. I'm not in the market now but down the line I might take the plunge. For now, could the proud helicon owners post a little horn porn?
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Postby Schlepporello » Mon Aug 03, 2015 9:33 am

Here's my Harvey Hartman created Helicon. Holton EEb bell, Conn sousa body, Conn 10J valve cluster, Jupiter buttons and caps.
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And this is an H.B. Jay "Columbia" EEb helicon that I had for a while. A local friend of mine now owns it.
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Postby Casca Grossa » Mon Aug 03, 2015 9:56 am

[quote="schlepporello"]Here's my Harvey Hartman created Helicon. Holton EEb bell, Conn sousa body, Conn 10J valve cluster, Jupiter buttons and caps.

Nice!!!! I wonder how many people use all original horns or a frankenhorn like yours. Great looking horn though. Bet it plays great.
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Postby Schlepporello » Mon Aug 03, 2015 9:59 am

Casca Grossa wrote:
schlepporello wrote:Here's my Harvey Hartman created Helicon. Holton EEb bell, Conn sousa body, Conn 10J valve cluster, Jupiter buttons and caps.

Nice!!!! I wonder how many people use all original horns or a frankenhorn like yours. Great looking horn though. Bet it plays great.

They're out there. The EEb Columbia is all original except for the tuning bits.
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Postby bigtubby » Mon Aug 03, 2015 11:17 am

Before and after photos of my mid-1920's York BBb:
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Someday I'll get my old Pepper Eb soldered back together and polished ...
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Postby Donn » Mon Aug 03, 2015 11:25 am

A few years ago I had 2 helicons, one in Eb and one in F. I was glad to get rid of them because I've given up on bass tuba, and a helicon takes up a lot of room. A sousaphone can be disassembled and stored and transported in a very compact form, but helicons are one big piece of awkward.
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Postby bigtubby » Mon Aug 03, 2015 11:55 am

Donn wrote:A few years ago I had 2 helicons, one in Eb and one in F. I was glad to get rid of them because I've given up on bass tuba, and a helicon takes up a lot of room. A sousaphone can be disassembled and stored and transported in a very compact form, but helicons are one big piece of awkward.

The BBb York with 26" bell certainly meets your "one big piece of awkward" description. It amazes me that it has survived so well over 90 years.
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Postby sousaphone68 » Mon Aug 03, 2015 12:25 pm

This is my Eb helicon no makers mark lots of patches.
Cant carry a tune but I can carry a tuba.
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Postby Dan Schultz » Mon Aug 03, 2015 12:28 pm

I just spent the 'Volksfest' weekend with this one. I used the helicon bell but I made a transition to be able to use a conventional sousaphone bell. The body is crafted of a 14K with the 4th valve donated by another 14K valve section. With the helicon bell this is a very well balanced horn for stand-up playing. The silver helicon bell was donated by a Conn Eb 'monster' tuba.

There is no need for the typical bell brace normally found on helicons and sousas. The bell screws match to holes in the receivers to make everything stay together nice and tight.

I even did a complete valve job on this horn early this year. This is one sweet horn!
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Postby The Big Ben » Mon Aug 03, 2015 12:59 pm

Any dealer who can get Cerveny or Amati can get one of their helicons new. BBb, Eb and F. Or order direct from the source.

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Postby hubert » Mon Aug 03, 2015 1:07 pm

Look at http://www.schneideruwe.de/tubashop. He regularly offers helicons for moderate prices. The MUSEUM section of his website may be interesting as well.
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Postby boobentuben » Mon Aug 03, 2015 2:02 pm

Donn wrote:A few years ago I had 2 helicons, one in Eb and one in F. I was glad to get rid of them because I've given up on bass tuba, and a helicon takes up a lot of room. A sousaphone can be disassembled and stored and transported in a very compact form, but helicons are one big piece of awkward.


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Postby Donn » Mon Aug 03, 2015 3:11 pm

Just trying to help keep the used market prices from skyrocketing when a new customer appears. If someone has one for sale, you can bet the price is soft - once he's decided he doesn't need, he'll really want to get rid of that thing.
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Postby armytuba » Mon Aug 03, 2015 5:03 pm

Amati BBb Helicon and Amati F Helicon:
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Postby Heavy_Metal » Mon Aug 03, 2015 9:21 pm

bigtubby wrote:Before and after photos of my mid-1920's York BBb:
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My early 1900s York looks much like this one, but you do a much better polishing job.

For anyone on the East Coast looking for helicons, Baltimore Brass has a good selection. On their homepage, http://www.baltimorebrass.net/ , scroll down in the center "blog" portion and you'll find a pic with some of them in the background. I believe the top row are Eb and F helicons, with the BBb ones underneath. The empty hook on the bottom row is where my York was hanging.
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Postby ken k » Mon Aug 03, 2015 9:33 pm

Casca Grossa wrote:Being summer and lots of parades going on, I've noticed a trend of helicons outnumbering other tuba shaped objects and I must admit, I'm feeling a little envious. I went to a local parade on Saturday and I saw 5 helicons, 3 BBb tubas and 0 sousaphones. I'm not in the market now but down the line I might take the plunge. For now, could the proud helicon owners post a little horn porn?

what parade that?
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Postby ken k » Mon Aug 03, 2015 9:39 pm

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Postby ken k » Mon Aug 03, 2015 9:41 pm

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Postby bloke » Mon Aug 03, 2015 10:01 pm

Ken,

Your sax-playing buddy looks like a twin brother (perhaps ten or fifteen years ago...) of a sax-playing buddy of mine.

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Postby T. J. Ricer » Mon Aug 03, 2015 10:06 pm

Here's one from my time with the Po' Boys Brass Band:
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Harv Hartman got it up and running for me: http://harvshappyhorns.blogspot.com/2011/07/tj-ricer-pan-american-helicon.html?m=1
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