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I have a Meister Gerhard Schneider badged tuba in the shop appears to be a little older than a B & S/VMI model 101 'stencils' from the 60's and 70's.

The garland is wider that Schneider tubas. The bow caps are also configured differently... with squared ends. There is also a guard wire on the bottom bow and no 'keel'.

Question for Klaus (and others who may be familiar with GDR instruments)....

Was there a horn builder named 'Meister Gerhard Schneider'? If so... was is the history?

A full frontal shot would help but, it looks like Cerveny to me.

I think that's the same engraving add on the on a friend sold, that I shilled here for a year or so. It was definitely a CMC stencil B&S

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Sonora was a tradename used by Oscar Adler Possibly an Amati stencil. Engraved: Sonora. nickel silver bell wreath Bell 16 1/2in length 43in bore .747. design based on the original Alexander Tuba pre 2nd world war. It is the same instrument as those 1970`s Selmer-imported "Meister Gerhard Schneider" Tubas.

Ken Herrick wrote:A full frontal shot would help but, it looks like Cerveny to me.

Ken... 'full frontal shot' sounds like the Monty Python/BBC jargon from the 60's! (full frontal nudity). The horn is without question B & S/VMI. The backplates of the harness loops and thumbring are the give-away there.

What I was 'fishing' for is whether Meister Gerhard Schneider was a bona-fide horn builder or just another 'stencil' name like Sonora, etc. There were many 'cottage' industries that went by the wayside during reconstruction and I thought perhaps the shop of Gerhard Schneider (if there was one) might have been one of these older family business. This horns has a few features that just don't appear to be 60 or 70-ish.

The first "serious" tuba I ever played was a Meister Gerhard Schneider BBb, 4 rotary. Was the perfect tuba for me during my senior year of high school. It had the typical intonation issues of any tuba at the time, flat middle-line D, the F below that was sharp, etc. . . but it played well and produced a nice sound. I'd love to find one today.

jonesbrass wrote:The first "serious" tuba I ever played was a Meister Gerhard Schneider BBb, 4 rotary. .... I'd love to find one today.

I should have this one back together in a couple of weeks if you want to drive over and give it a 'toot'. I think it's going to be a good 'un.

TubaTinker wrote:

jonesbrass wrote:The first "serious" tuba I ever played was a Meister Gerhard Schneider BBb, 4 rotary. .... I'd love to find one today.

I should have this one back together in a couple of weeks if you want to drive over and give it a 'toot'. I think it's going to be a good 'un.

I'll have to check it out!

These were available in the early 1980s, made by B&S