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Found this in my case, what is it?

Postby Mtrhed » Fri Aug 28, 2015 12:04 am

Hi everyone,
I've been helping out a friend by playing in my local Salvation Army band. To make things easy I've been using an S/A horn that's kept on-site for practices and performances so I don't have to schlep mine back and forth. The horn is a York "Presence" model (3409 or 3904?). This horn has hardly been played since the center opened more then a decade ago. When putting the horn back in its case tonight I spotted the item in the attached photo in the back of the mouthpiece compartment of the case

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I've never seen one of these and neither has anyone in the group I'm playing with. The spacing of the holes is about right to match the stem placement on the three upright valves and there is some kind of spring loaded tab in the middle hole. The thing is capped on both ends and it has a nice silver finish to match the horn so I'd guess this wasn't meant to just lock the valves down for shipping plus the the finger buttons couldn't fit into the holes. Can anyone tell me what this is for?
This is the first time I've tried attchimg a photo here so I hope it works. Thanks for any guidence you may have.
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Postby tokuno » Fri Aug 28, 2015 12:16 am

You're right about the spacing, but it's for the bottom of the valve casing. It slips over the nubs on the bottom caps to catch drips before they land on you.
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Re: Found this in my case, what is it?

Postby sousaphone68 » Fri Aug 28, 2015 3:59 am

Its a grime gutter I had one thinking it would help preserve the finish on my tuba.
Two things wrong with it.
1. If the absorbant pad is missing and you place the tuba down on its bell when finished you get a deluge that in my case brown spotted my bell.
2. With the absorbant pad in place it swells to the point were it will seal the bottom of the valve case slowing the valve.

I now use an old tube sock cut down with a cloth stuffed inside.
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Re: Found this in my case, what is it?

Postby Mtrhed » Fri Aug 28, 2015 8:43 am

Cool, I'll check the fit at our next practice. I don't think I'll need it though. Odd thing about this horn, In all the time I've played it I've never had a drop of water come out of the horn. I can usually create a puddle the size of Lake Michigan in no time but this horn is dry as a bone. Thank you for the advise.
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Re: Found this in my case, what is it?

Postby bloke » Fri Aug 28, 2015 10:01 am

It's missing the round water-absorbing (yes, actually...) tampon that is supposed to be inside.

Locate a short piece of (cotton...not nylon) rope that is small enough to fit inside, trim it to length, insert it, and the device will function properly - ABSORBING the water, rather than just temporarily catching the water.
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Re: Found this in my case, what is it?

Postby Matt Walters » Fri Aug 28, 2015 11:12 am

A cheap and readily available cotton product to put int he spit catchers is kerosene Lantern Wick.
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Re: Found this in my case, what is it?

Postby Wyvern » Fri Aug 28, 2015 12:26 pm

Just put some adsorbent cotton wood in ends (not under the holes) and that will adsorb the moisture. That is what I use on my Eb tuba and never have any problems with drips, or blocking bottom of valves.
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Re: Found this in my case, what is it?

Postby bloke » Fri Aug 28, 2015 1:16 pm

any non-nylon/soft-cotton rope-like product that fits, and can be bought by-the-foot :D
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Re: Found this in my case, what is it?

Postby dwerden » Fri Aug 28, 2015 9:18 pm

Not all of these devices have a wick. My own, from Adams, does not, and the ones I have owned (or made) have not. I just need to remember to empty it after my practice or performance.

There is usually a long end and a short end, once you have it in place. The long end should be on the 3rd valve side so if you tip the horn 90 degrees to rest, the long end will catch the water (more capacity that way).
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Re: Found this in my case, what is it?

Postby PCPettit » Tue Feb 06, 2018 12:26 pm

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Re: Found this in my case, what is it?

Postby the elephant » Tue Feb 06, 2018 12:47 pm

Um, who are you addressing, here?

Perhaps it would be more effective to create a new thread directed to the attention of the person you are trying to contact?

There are seven people in this ancient thread from 2015 and you do not even say to whom you are speaking.

Further, it sounds like you might be confusing the Sent Box and the Out Box. If your PMs are sitting in your Out Box they have not yet been read. If they are in Sent it means they have read, so the person you are contacting may not yet have had time to reply to you.

Finally, this is an open forum and it is patrolled by bots every minute of every day. Some are spambots. You should never post your email address in the clear like that. The spambots scan it into their database and then you start getting all sorts of junk in your email In Box.

Go back into your post (the Edit button at the top) and delete your email adderess. Change it do something a human can read but that a computer might not figure out, like: PCPettit at gmail dot com

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Re: Found this in my case, what is it?

Postby Teubonium » Tue Feb 06, 2018 2:00 pm

dwerden wrote:Not all of these devices have a wick. My own, from Adams, does not, and the ones I have owned (or made) have not. I just need to remember to empty it after my practice or performance.

There is usually a long end and a short end, once you have it in place. The long end should be on the 3rd valve side so if you tip the horn 90 degrees to rest, the long end will catch the water (more capacity that way).


Yes. My Besson 967 came with a grime gutter with NO "tampon" inside. I make a habit of emptying all tuning slide and the grime gutter after practice, rehearsals, and concerts.
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