This may interest some of you. This little gem now resides in my house.
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Boy, did I get lucky. This is a great playing 3/4 BBb tuba that must have been played for a year or two and then put in the closet. Based on my reading here and elsewhere on the web... I think it was made between 1990 and 1996 by Musica in Austria using Amati/Cerveny parts. It appears to be pretty much a Cerveny 483 with a smaller bell (14 1/4"). A couple of minor dents but otherwise like new. Valves have miniball mechanism and are smooth and silent, thumb ring is adjustable, horn is 32" tall, comes in a J Winter case. I haven't weighed but but it is light and comfortable to hold. My guess is .787 bore, like the X83 models, but I haven't measured it. Intonation is great - at least in my current range. And it sounds great!
Musica Steyr Austria
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Musica Steyr Austria
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Mirafone 184 BBb
B&M Marzan BBb
1974 Besson Eb
Tom Rice
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Mirafone 184 BBb
B&M Marzan BBb
1974 Besson Eb
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Re: Musica Steyr Austria
^ That's a great looking tuba! Looks to be in near-pristine condition. Though your tuba is short/squat, I'd call it a 7/8 or compact 4/4 tuba due to the bows/bore size.
I played a Musica BBb (made with Cerveny 681 parts) tuba as one of several tubas at my first college. It played OK with a clear sound and projected well for it's size. The only pitch issue I remember was the flat open 5th partial (D in staff), everything else was close/on. The only other "weird" thing about that tuba was the open 4th partial ('tuning note' Bb in staff) played/responded "dead"; it did not resonate as well as the other notes, and felt 'stuffy' response-wise. But I liked the light weight of that tuba!
There were also many 'Musica'-labeled tubas that were made with VMI/B&S parts
I played a Musica BBb (made with Cerveny 681 parts) tuba as one of several tubas at my first college. It played OK with a clear sound and projected well for it's size. The only pitch issue I remember was the flat open 5th partial (D in staff), everything else was close/on. The only other "weird" thing about that tuba was the open 4th partial ('tuning note' Bb in staff) played/responded "dead"; it did not resonate as well as the other notes, and felt 'stuffy' response-wise. But I liked the light weight of that tuba!
There were also many 'Musica'-labeled tubas that were made with VMI/B&S parts
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Re: Musica Steyr Austria
You are right - there is nothing "3/4" about this horn. I did got out my Mirafone 186 and put them on the floor together and did some comparisons using a tailor's tape measure. This horn has very similar dimensions as the 186, except for the bell. The upper bow is a bit narrower but, in general, the overall dimensions and the branch diameters at similar points are pretty close. I think the best description is "compact 4/4."
Playing it is an interesting experience. It is so light and compact but the sound that comes out is so big. It is surprising because it "feels" like a small horn but it is a real powerhouse! A bulldog comes to mind - squat, sturdy, and strong. And what comes out of the bell is beautiful (given my playing abilities). I haven't found any tonal or intonational oddities yet. Great fun!
Playing it is an interesting experience. It is so light and compact but the sound that comes out is so big. It is surprising because it "feels" like a small horn but it is a real powerhouse! A bulldog comes to mind - squat, sturdy, and strong. And what comes out of the bell is beautiful (given my playing abilities). I haven't found any tonal or intonational oddities yet. Great fun!
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Tom Rice
http://www.superfinecases.com
Mirafone 184 BBb
B&M Marzan BBb
1974 Besson Eb
Tom Rice
http://www.superfinecases.com
Mirafone 184 BBb
B&M Marzan BBb
1974 Besson Eb
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Re: Musica Steyr Austria
Definitely looks like an Amati Musica, not the MW/Conn Musica BBb that I play.
I picked up my Musica BBb in 1996 at Dillon for around $4K. The price included a hard case that broke in a week. Matt & Steve quickly ordered a (Donna) Altieri bag for no charge, and I've been using it ever since!
I'll try to post a few images of my horn soon, so you can compare. It's a 4/4 with a really thin profile, unlike some of the 3/4-4/4 Cerveny BBb's you'd probably compare. My fav feature is its linkage adjustibility; just a dab of C/S Tuning Slide gel and a drop of valve oil reset the thing to factory specs - with no noise!
I picked up my Musica BBb in 1996 at Dillon for around $4K. The price included a hard case that broke in a week. Matt & Steve quickly ordered a (Donna) Altieri bag for no charge, and I've been using it ever since!
I'll try to post a few images of my horn soon, so you can compare. It's a 4/4 with a really thin profile, unlike some of the 3/4-4/4 Cerveny BBb's you'd probably compare. My fav feature is its linkage adjustibility; just a dab of C/S Tuning Slide gel and a drop of valve oil reset the thing to factory specs - with no noise!
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Re: Musica Steyr Austria
There sure seems to be a lot of Amati/Cerventy type stencils/tuba parts (valvesets?) cropping up from that part of the world pre and post WWII. Can't hardly track them all.Definitely looks like an Amati Musica
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Re: Musica Steyr Austria
Yeah . . . Cerveny. Complete with marshmellow valve stops. Easily replaceable, but probably should never have been on the tuba in the first place.
Willson 3050S CC, Willson 3200S F, B&S PT-10, BMB 6/4 CC, 1922 Conn 86I
Gone but not forgotten:
Cerveny 681, Musica-Steyr F, Miraphone 188, Melton 45, Conn 2J, B&M 5520S CC, Shires Bass Trombone, Cerveny CFB-653-5IMX, St. Petersburg 202N
Gone but not forgotten:
Cerveny 681, Musica-Steyr F, Miraphone 188, Melton 45, Conn 2J, B&M 5520S CC, Shires Bass Trombone, Cerveny CFB-653-5IMX, St. Petersburg 202N