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Greenhoe-Bach Bass Trombone Stolen US AIR BAD

Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2005 1:12 pm
by rascaljim
I'm posting this for a friend of mine:

My Greenhoe-Bach bass trombone was stolen sometime on Sunday, March 20 after I checked it with US Airways baggage services at Washington, DC's Reagan National Airport (DCA). My flight was leaving DC and departing for Chicago's O'Hare airport after the conclusion of the Eastern Trombone Workshop. The airline has been uncooperative and unable to tell if it was stolen in DC or in Chicago.
The horn is a Bach 50 with a yellow brass bell (it has a small stand ding in the top part of the flare) and a custom Greenhoe slide (a standard weight Bach slide with a nickel-silver Greenhoe crook). The valves are double, independent Greenhoe valves with the lexan valve caps. The horn was in an Edwards hardshell case and was padded with old tshirts on the inside to prevent damage.

The valve section had a Greenhoe Brace, made unusual buy the fact that I had covered it with plastic tubing for comfort. The leadpipe is also unusual in that, while it is a standard Bach removeable leadpipe with the screw-clamp collar, I removed the screw, as it was bothering my hand. In the case was also my Doug Elliott custom mouthpiece - a 114 M, M8, with a silver plated rim.
Anybody who has any information on my horn is asked to contact me directly (the police and airlines have proven to be no help.) via email - andy@prestarfinancial.com, or by phone at 773-484-6701. I'm offering a $250 reward for its safe return - I know it's not much, but it's all a bass trombonist (who's just had his horn stolen) can afford!

Contact Info: Name: Andy Rozsa
Email: andy@prestarfinancial.com
Phone: 773-484-6701


From what I've heard... it sounds like the horn was stolen and the airlines are totally not helping. The airline inquestion is US AIR. From what I understand, Andy was only able to claim so much money for the value of the horn. Since the horn was very expensive for a Bass Trombone, the value he's hoping to recieve from the airline is significantly less than the horn is worth. He's persuing options through his renters insurance, but this is still one of the saddest situations I have ever heard of in dealing with the airlines. What's the worst, is when he got to chicago and realized he had no Btb, he wsa told the baggage information for it had been deleted in the airlines computer, meaning it's someone that works for the airline that probably stole it. What else can we do to keep this from happening. Legally, it seems wrong that the airline is going to get out of paying the full value of the horn. By the way, to make matters worse, Andy's only had this horn for a month or so. I haven't even had a chance to hear him play it with dubuque...

Man....
Jim Langenberg

no luck

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 5:36 pm
by rascaljim
bump for andy

so far he's pretty much out of luck... neither police department will claim jurisdiction over the theft and his lawyer is even telling him he should just send them a letter and cut his losses because he won't get far with an airline in chapter 11.

Go big goverment! :roll:
Jim

Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2005 6:25 pm
by bbocaner

Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2005 7:48 pm
by Cameron Gates
Speaking of stolen trombones, a US Marine Band trombone popped up on Ebay yesterday. This was stolen about a month ago. Sheeeesh, what is going on?

This is the hot bone:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... RK:MEBI:IT

Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2005 9:21 pm
by bbocaner
TUBACHRIS85 wrote: Is this the Bass Trombone that was stolen, or is bbocaner selling it? The location of the seller seems to be in Chicago,
No, I'm not selling it. These pawn shop guys sure have some nerve!

Barry

Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2005 9:48 pm
by Tom Holtz
Cameron Gates wrote:Speaking of stolen trombones, a US Marine Band trombone popped up on Ebay yesterday. This was stolen about a month ago. Sheeeesh, what is going on?
Wait, which one of our guys had a bass bone stolen? Is that really, for sure, one of our guys' rig??

Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2005 9:58 pm
by Tom Holtz
TUBACHRIS85 wrote:
Is this the Bass Trombone that was stolen, or is bbocaner selling it? I dont know, but if it is YOURS, I would recommend doing somthing about it, like NOW.
Gotta love the first line of the write-up on eBay...
DO NOT BID WITH NO OR NEGATIVE FEEDBACK OR I WILL CANCEL YOUR BID
I got your negative feedback--right here.

I'm so lucky that my prized helicon looks like it came out of a dog's butt.

Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2005 10:25 pm
by rascaljim
I talked to andy and YES IT IS HIS TROMBONE!!!. He commented that the guy has no idea that it's not a stock bach g50. And that's an edwards trombone case with it... the same one andy has.

He called the cops and they still won't help him unless he goes down to the pawn show (or whatever it is) and verify it's his trombone. I do'nt know how this is going to unfold but I hope someone goes to jail for this.

Any advice on how to deal with the cops and ebay?
Jim Langenberg

Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2005 10:46 pm
by Chuck(G)
Cameron Gates wrote:Speaking of stolen trombones, a US Marine Band trombone popped up on Ebay yesterday. This was stolen about a month ago. Sheeeesh, what is going on?

This is the hot bone:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... RK:MEBI:IT
That'd be accepting stolen U.S. Gummint property, wouldn't it, Cam? A Federal beef? Don't think a pawnbroker has much protection in that case...

Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2005 12:07 am
by Pippen
There is some information on the ebay help pages:
http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/stolen.html

It might be worth making an inquiry to the seller for the serial number so an <ahem> interested party could date the instrument.

Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2005 2:51 pm
by Cameron Gates
Chuck(G) wrote:
Cameron Gates wrote:Speaking of stolen trombones, a US Marine Band trombone popped up on Ebay yesterday. This was stolen about a month ago. Sheeeesh, what is going on?

This is the hot bone:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... RK:MEBI:IT
That'd be accepting stolen U.S. Gummint property, wouldn't it, Cam? A Federal beef? Don't think a pawnbroker has much protection in that case...
He reported it stolen in DC. The pawn shop is in MD. Original cop that wrote the report is in DC. Cop can not find the report now. If not resolved, I am sure USMC will send helicopters. At least I hope.

I talked with the owner of the trombone (and a stolen alto bone at the same shop) last night and he said things look good for a peaceful reunion of bone and bone owner/player. Hey Chuck-GO DUCKS