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Hello fellow and wise tubists,

I'm im the market for a nice 5/4 CC tuba. At the university that I play I was on a 186 but is too small, can't get the sound I believe that can support the orchestra.
Being the poor student that I am I only have in the 5000-6000$ range to spend because o have been saving up for a while.

My options were the Wisemann(Mack) or the new wayvrn(wessex)...

But now I have come across a "Thor" copy from Thomann..
https://m.thomann.de/gb/thomann_grand_f ... 1462084093" target="_blank

And I was wondering if anyone had any information regarding this model and thomann as a company.
This looks like the better option because it has what I need at a lower price (still a lot tho).
So I anyone could dish out some information on the Thomann Thor copy I would gladly appreciate it.

P.s. I know that these are all Chinese horns and that many people don't like them but I would prefer this not turn into one of those Chinese vs none Chinese horn posts...

I've played the Thor copy here in Germany.

It's pretty good. Normal problems with valve cap threads and it being very dirty on the inside. I haven't played a real Thor in years but I wasn't that impressed with the low end. It was very workable, but nothing super special or easy about it. I don't know where you are in the world but shipping and customs may make this horn pretty spendy once it's all said and done. I say save up, use a blokepiece symphony on that 186 and wait until you have more cash in hand.

I will second Mark's vote for an Eastman, I play in the University Orchestra here and have no trouble supporting the group at all, the Eastman is also very easy to tune, a slight pull of slide 4 for Db and Gb, and pulling 1 for F in the staff. very easy horn to play and sounds much bigger then it looks.

If the Chinese have cloned the Thor and done a good job on it, that will be a very hot seller....