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titanium mouthpiece copy
Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2016 1:59 am
by ds_le_moulin
hello,
anyone knows who ca copy a brass mouthpiece in titanium ?
apart giddings...
thanks
Re: titanium mouthpiece copy
Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2016 4:58 am
by Peach
Dave Houser will do an accurate Stainless copy. Why titanium?
Re: titanium mouthpiece copy
Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2016 8:24 am
by opus37
Schlepporello wrote:Peach wrote:Dave Houser will do an accurate Stainless copy. Why titanium?
The only reason I can think of would be the lighter weight. But the same reduction in weight can be accomplished with a Kelly mouthpiece and it would be a lot cheaper than titanium.
Titanium should be a denser material. It goes to the theory that the material affects the sound. Maybe that's true, but the shape has the overwhelming affect, both in bowl and back bore, making the material general immaterial. It is hard to justify the considerable added expense.
Re: titanium mouthpiece copy
Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2016 12:34 pm
by ds_le_moulin
Ok, i didnt know Houser was making copies...
neither that Kelly would make some ?
Life is an expensive game. Since - in principe - I have only one, I better play it 100%
one of the reason, is that my curent mouthpiece is in 3 different pieces...(WHF)
Re: titanium mouthpiece copy
Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2016 1:27 pm
by Ulli
Peach wrote: Why titanium?
Stainless steel may be an allergen to some people.
Re: titanium mouthpiece copy
Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2016 2:19 pm
by Peach
ds_le_moulin wrote:Ok, i didnt know Houser was making copies...
neither that Kelly would make some ?
one of the reason, is that my curent mouthpiece is in 3 different pieces...(WHF)
AFAIK, Kelly don't copy on an individual basis.
So do you mean you don't think 3-piece designs are good? Sorry, I'm not clear! WHF very well made pieces, no?
Re: titanium mouthpiece copy
Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2016 2:30 am
by ds_le_moulin
The WHF mouthpiece are great. But in three pieces.
And the titanium he uses (I asked tho have the rim in titanium) is more heavy than the G&W titanium and I do not get that really comfort feeling with it. (like with gold plating for example...)
Re: titanium mouthpiece copy
Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2016 9:09 pm
by barry grrr-ero
I used an 'original' Baer CC in titanium on my Besson 983 Eb when I wanted it to sound like a big 3/4 CC tuba. I tried the same mouthpiece in stainless steel first, and it was much, MUCH brighter sounding. The titanium made a huge difference on that horn. But on my big Neptune CC, the titanium doesn't seem to make as much difference in timbre - I guess because the Neptune already is an enlarged PT-6. I like the titanium because it responds like a 'light weight', but sounds like a 'heavy weight'. The 'original' Baer has a fairly round, 'cushy' rim, so I still use that for long days at the Oktoberfest.
Re: titanium mouthpiece copy
Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2016 1:18 am
by ds_le_moulin
So even a light weight titanium sounds darker than a stainless steel ?
Re: titanium mouthpiece copy
Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2016 8:08 pm
by GC
Kanstul has a digital scanning process that makes copies that can be tweaked in the computer before CNC machining.
http://www.kanstul.net/MPdigitalscanning.php They also have a picture of their CNC lathe.
http://www.kanstul.net/MPcncMachining.php
Whether they'd be willing to work with titanium is another matter. You can always call them and see.
Re: titanium mouthpiece copy
Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2016 11:48 pm
by ds_le_moulin
Thanks for this great piece of advice !
Re: titanium mouthpiece copy
Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2016 1:39 am
by ds_le_moulin
They required me to contact them next year
Seems I'll need to find some alternative solution..