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Stars and Stripes for orchestra in d

Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 12:06 pm
by MikeMason
So, do those of you who play this just read off the bass part? Not very satisfying. Any better ideas?

Re: Stars and Stripes for orchestra in d

Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 12:52 pm
by MikeMason
Just seems like as often as this is played,someone would have written out something a little more polished/tailored. I looked on the New York phil's website and they apparently use the same old bass part too.

Re: Stars and Stripes for orchestra in d

Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 1:52 pm
by Matt Good
Mike,
I just sent you a PM

Re: Stars and Stripes for orchestra in d

Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 2:24 pm
by Mark
MikeMason wrote:So, do those of you who play this just read off the bass part? Not very satisfying. Any better ideas?
I'm confused. I play this several times each summer and there is a tuba part:

Re: Stars and Stripes for orchestra in d

Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 2:57 pm
by MikeMason
Yes,I could fake it, but with a big stack of tunes,a mic down my bell in outdoor conditions, and my very limited improv abilities,I'd rather have some paper.

Re: Stars and Stripes for orchestra in d

Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 5:05 pm
by Mark
bloke wrote:ahh yes...the old Brion/Schissel :roll:
And, the last time I played this, Keith Brion was conducting.

Re: Stars and Stripes for orchestra in d

Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 5:41 pm
by Three Valves
Poor fella.

All day long people saying "What up, Shizzle??"

Re: Stars and Stripes for orchestra in d

Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 7:58 pm
by Ace
Mark wrote:
bloke wrote:ahh yes...the old Brion/Schissel :roll:
And, the last time I play this, Keith Brion was conducting.
Same here, except I was playing trumpet. Brion is an interesting guy.

Ace

Re: Stars and Stripes for orchestra in d

Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 8:19 pm
by aqualung
My brass band had to play this with the local semi-pro orchestra. Their conductor told me they had to play it in D because their piccolos couldn't play it in the original band key.
My BB players had no problem doing this chestnut in other keys.
Meanwhile, the piccolos in our community band told me they couldn't play it in the sharp keys.
Friends, these people all play the same key (C) piccolos.

Re: Stars and Stripes for orchestra in d

Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 10:10 pm
by MikeMason
Problem solved. Thanks Matt!

Re: Stars and Stripes for orchestra in d

Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2016 8:17 am
by timothy42b
You've probably all seen the youtube video of Schissel explaining how to play it, but just in case:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DetE5-c ... L&index=53" target="_blank

Re: Stars and Stripes for orchestra in d

Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2016 9:24 am
by Steve Marcus
When playing the piccolo obligato on a CC (which is almost expected now rather than a novelty), some of the trills are easier in G major instead of Ab major--FWIW.

Re: Stars and Stripes for orchestra in d

Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2016 9:24 am
by Steve Marcus
When playing the piccolo obligato on a CC (which is almost expected now rather than a novelty), some of the trills are easier in G major instead of Ab major--FWIW.

Re: Stars and Stripes for orchestra in d

Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2016 10:26 am
by Three Valves
You say that as if flute players have a function other than sitting in the first row and looking adorable.

:)

Re: Stars and Stripes for orchestra in d

Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2016 11:00 am
by Steve Marcus
Lest anyone should be under the impression that I advocate the notion of the principal flute/piccolo abdicating one of their most famous solos in favor of the tubist (this one is perfectly happy remaining in the back row shunning solos--unless, of course, the solo is written for tuba):
bloke wrote:When (and it comes up from time-to-time) band directors ask me if I would consider stepping out in front of their bands and playing the piccolo solo on S&SF, I refuse.

Decades ago, I would do it, but - after doing it two or three times, realized that...
- there really aren't that many flute solos in band music - particularly not at WIDELY-ATTENDED band concerts (and, actually, not that many - percentage-wise - in orchestra music, either).
- even if I play that passage exquisitely well, it sounds like crap - because (well, duh) it's being played several octaves too low, and on the wrong instrument.
- flute players deserve their due. They don't need to LOOK FORWARD TO and PRACTICE playing that solo passage ONLY TO DISCOVER (particularly as most bands are volunteer organizations) that some stupid-@$$ tuba player is going to be playing the ONE passage in a patriotic concert that spotlights THEM.
- it's neither clever nor humorous.
+ 1

Re: Stars and Stripes for orchestra in d

Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2016 11:38 am
by Three Valves
bloke wrote: ...and - at least, to me - their appearance doesn't particularly bring the word, "adorable", to the front of my vocab.

Image
Obviously a sax player doubling on the flute!!

:oops: