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Will Wessex make a Besson 983 copy?

Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2016 1:01 pm
by LCTuba89
I know they make the Gnagey Eb, but I was hoping one day they would make a compensating front action horn like the 983. I really loved the Champion but I couldn't get a hang of the 4th valve being on the left hand. Is there a front action version of the Champion coming to us eventually Jonathan?

Re: Will Wessex make a Besson 983 copy?

Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2016 2:32 pm
by barry grrr-ero
If Wessex decides they want to make a 983 copy, here's a suggestion from a former 983 owner. Try to lay the wrap in a way that would be a tad easier to get the left hand through the tuba for those times you want to play the fourth valve with your left hand. Sounds crazy, but it would be good for those times when you're using the 983 in a contra-bass role with lots of fast, low register notes. Obviously, this would be in sit-down situations, and with the bell pointed upwards (not 3-point stance). Just a thought.

Re: Will Wessex make a Besson 983 copy?

Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2016 2:54 pm
by GC
I'd be interested in one with a larger bell.

Re: Will Wessex make a Besson 983 copy?

Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2016 5:22 pm
by Wyvern
I cannot say if Wessex will or will not make a front action compensated Eb. It is something I have been considering, but have not yet made decision and as we have a lot else in progress, it is not something that will likely happen before 2018 earliest.

If Wessex do, then I would be more inclined to base on an old British Hawkes cavalry tuba I have in my collection, rather than the Besson 983. I have recently done play comparison of Gnagey Eb, cavalry tuba and 983 and honestly the latter was my least favourite. The high register on both the others was better in tune (for me the 983 played flat above the staff).

I like the idea of 4th valve that can be operated with little finger on right hand, or by left hand as preferred. That was the idea with our Festivo euphonium, so if Wessex do go the front action compensated Eb route I will try to achieve that again.

Re: Will Wessex make a Besson 983 copy?

Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2022 9:13 pm
by Iainmac
Interesting comment regarding the left hand 4th valve. I got rid of the Yamaha with the right hand 4 th valve for a compensating Wessex with a left hand 4th. Similar in playing style to my Boosey euphonium. Guess it is what you get used to!

Re: Will Wessex make a Besson 983 copy?

Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2022 6:44 am
by Michael Grant
There is an Eastman front action compensating Eb for sale on this forum right now. Very good price. As an Wessex owner and having played the Eastman the quality is 10 times that of the Wessex (IMHO). Worth a look at least.

Re: Will Wessex make a Besson 983 copy?

Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2022 9:53 am
by MKTuba
To the OP, wessex does make a front action Eb now, called the “Cavalry”. I have not played one, however it is likely on par with the rest of the wessex line up, and would be a decent tuba for a lower price than the other options on the market.

Re: Will Wessex make a Besson 983 copy?

Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2022 10:21 am
by arpthark
FYI, this is a 6 year old thread.

Re: Will Wessex make a Besson 983 copy?

Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2022 1:45 pm
by barry grrr-ero
That's OK - I have a seven year old brain.

Re: Will Wessex make a Besson 983 copy?

Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2022 4:32 pm
by Cthuba
Do they even sell the Calvary anymore? I don’t see it on the website.

Re: Will Wessex make a Besson 983 copy?

Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2022 12:50 am
by GC
It's been discontinued in favor of the Tubby, the TE665.