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5th and 6th partials played on an EEEb bugle?
Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2016 9:50 am
by imperialbari
I don’t know how to link directly to this video, but you will find it by scrolling down to December 4th.
https://www.facebook.com/wotanrules/?hc ... NE&fref=nf
G1 & Bb1 would make this the equalent of a tuba not just one octave below, but two octaves below, the standard Eb tuba.
I really would like seeing a profile shot allowing for an evaluation o the length and of the bore profile,
Re: 5th and 6th partials played on an EEEb bugle
Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2016 10:35 am
by bort
That's the gjallarhorn at US Bank Stadium in Minneapolis (about 2 blocks from my house!), home of the Minnesota Vikings.
Fun fact -- this version of the horn is new for this year. Last season, the team played outdoors, and the final game of the season was so cold (like -6F or something) that the horn cracked and broke into pieces. Let's hope the actual vikings, long ago, built theirs a little more solidly.

Re: 5th and 6th partials played on an EEEb bugle
Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2016 10:42 am
by Three Valves
So, they make a mute for a gjallarhorn but NOT for a recording bell tuba??
(Is that a speaker in there??)
Re: 5th and 6th partials played on an EEEb bugle
Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2016 2:34 pm
by NCSUSousa
Looks to me like that Viking horn is just holding a speaker. I don't think the 'player' is actually doing anything other than ceremonially puffing his cheeks:
Randy Moss:
http://www.vikings.com/media-vault/vide ... d85776fea2
Bud Grant:
http://www.vikings.com/media-vault/vide ... aa65c26e95
The one before it that they used at the Gopher's stadium seems to also be just a speaker with pyrotechnic effects:
http://www.vikings.com/media-vault/vide ... 3aad50aac4
I'm not sure, but it looks like the old (before 2009 and after the other one broke) one was real. The pitch on it was much closer to that of a trombone and it seems to respond to the player in the videos I found.
Re: 5th and 6th partials played on an EEEb bugle?
Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2016 4:01 am
by imperialbari
The two notes played would fit the overtone pattern of a 16 metres long (or so) bugle.
Obviously the Gjallarhorn is much shorter, somewhere between 5 and 6 metres.
But then information coming to me hints that this horn isn’t played as an open bugle. Rather it hides a speaker system that may be triggered by the wind blown into it.
Yes, I am a bit disappointed by the cheating, as I liked the idea of a huge open bugle. The attenders of the sports games likely wouldn’t care at all.
Klaus
Re: 5th and 6th partials played on an EEEb bugle?
Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2016 7:49 am
by Three Valves
imperialbari wrote:
Yes, I am a bit disappointed by the cheating, as I liked the idea of a huge open bugle. The attenders of the sports games likely wouldn’t care at all.
Klaus
Like recorded church "bells"

Re: 5th and 6th partials played on an EEEb bugle?
Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2016 11:19 am
by bort
ValveSlide wrote:We'll never know the facts on this horn unless Bort goes over there and checks it out and gives it a test toot.
Come on, bort, inquiring minds

NEED to know...

I'll get right on that.

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Not a gjallarhorn smiley, but the best I can do.
Re: 5th and 6th partials played on an EEEb bugle?
Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2016 5:33 pm
by Mike-Johnson-Custom
When I first saw the video I smelled a rat!