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Peratucci 1 Mouthpiece

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2017 7:54 am
by Jim Brewer
I thought I would put this out there and see if anyone has any information on this. I have looked at the Perantucci website, went through the history there and can find no mention of this. It's clearly stamped: Perantucci 1, with made in Gemany on the shank. I hope someone can help put a history to this piece.
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While at Shenandoah, Mark Moore suggested I try this mp, and it working really work for lighter work, (solos and orchestra). It played lighter, the upper register would flow easily on the Vaughn Williams Concerto, Meistersinger, Kraft and other works. It also increased my flexibility and response over the old Marzan mouthpiece I was using at the time. It lost power in the lower register, and was uncentered below low C and pedal tones sounded like a pillow was crammed in the bell.

Using the Marzan for heavy work and the Perantucci for solos worked great. I have considered adding another mp to my set, maybe one of Perantoni's 4.4 or 4.8. Any insight here would be appreciated as well.

Jim

Re: Peratucci 1 Mouthpiece

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2017 8:00 am
by arpthark
They changed the numbering system. It's equivalent to the newer PT-36.

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Re: Peratucci 1 Mouthpiece

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2017 8:08 am
by Jim Brewer
Thanks arpthark, I had been looking but couldn't find a reference. However the dimensions are dang close. I wasn't sure how accurate my measurements were.

Re: Peratucci 1 Mouthpiece

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2017 5:19 pm
by Jim Brewer
Thanks Guys! It's great to be able to get feedback on something like this.

Back when I was a only a dumb college student, I just took my intructor's word and practiced until things worked, then added my my own slant to things and made them work better for me! ( I hope Fred Marzan, Mark Moore and Andy Farnham wouldn't mind that! ) :D

Re: Peratucci 1 Mouthpiece

Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2017 6:36 am
by Robert Tucci
Jim,

The mouthpiece you have dates back close to forty years. As mentioned, the PT-1 later became the PT-36 and most recently, the RT-36 for the U.S. market. Bruno Tilz, now eighty-four years of age, is still active in his small shop which is run by his daughter. The PT-1 became the M-1, at least as far as Tilz's producst are concerned.

The current PT-36 or RT-36 was based on the old "36" but moved to modern CNC production years ago. The would be comparing apples to organges. In general and for contrabass tubas, the old models with their light shells are smooth and flexible yet the modern versions more solid. The PT-36 is a rather popular mouthpiece. As mentioned and due to changes in marketing PT becomes RT in the United States. Baltimore Brass and the Canadian Brass Store have the new mouthpieces in stock, including the RT-36.

Bob Tucci

Re: Peratucci 1 Mouthpiece

Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2017 12:35 pm
by Jim Brewer
Robert Tucci wrote:Jim,

The mouthpiece you have dates back close to forty years. As mentioned, the PT-1 later became the PT-36 and most recently, the RT-36 for the U.S. market. Bruno Tilz, now eighty-four years of age, is still active in his small shop which is run by his daughter. The PT-1 became the M-1, at least as far as Tilz's producst are concerned.

The current PT-36 or RT-36 was based on the old "36" but moved to modern CNC production years ago. The would be comparing apples to organges. In general and for contrabass tubas, the old models with their light shells are smooth and flexible yet the modern versions more solid. The PT-36 is a rather popular mouthpiece. As mentioned and due to changes in marketing PT becomes RT in the United States. Baltimore Brass and the Canadian Brass Store have the new mouthpieces in stock, including the RT-36.

Bob Tucci
Bob,

You are correct on the dating. ( unfortunately, that dates me as well!! ) I picked up this mp on the recommendation of Mark Moore in '76. At the time, I was playing in the wind ensemble, brass choir and orchestra, as well as completing the required levels for my performance certification. It got me through the Vaughn Williams, the Kraft, Russian Easter Overture ( band) the Meistersinger, Fanfare for the Common Man( orchestra ) and played well in all the those settings. A few of those pushed me, the horn and mp hard, especially when the wind ensemble director asked (!!) for more !!

Re: Peratucci 1 Mouthpiece

Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2017 1:37 pm
by bort
That's awesome. You never know who is going to post replies around here!

Re: Peratucci 1 Mouthpiece

Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2017 2:16 pm
by Jim Brewer
bort wrote:That's awesome. You never know who is going to post replies around here!
It's amazing the type of people we have in this community! I would have never expected Bob Tucci to respond to a simple post like this, but I'm very grateful for the information and the post!!

Thanks, Bob!!

Re: Peratucci 1 Mouthpiece

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2017 5:30 pm
by Jim Brewer
Second question about this mouthpiece. Would it be a Euro shank or American? I've been looking at a Laskey 30G or H mp ( doing a lot of band playing now )and realized " I don't have a clue which size it is!"

Perantucci 1 Mouthpiece

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2017 5:08 am
by Robert Tucci
Jim,

The shank size of the venerable PT-1 mouthpiece can be determined on the basis of the attached drawing.
Please have a look at this:

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Bob