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Concert, sure.
But nothing beats a parade!!
But nothing beats a parade!!
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Played my 40K seated in a church orchestra on the stage of a huge, cathedral style sanctuary with one of those massive organs in the background. One note from the 40K resonated throughout the whole building. It did really well. Sousaphones are definitely concert horns.
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I think it would be awesome to see them play with a set of matching, vintage raincatchers! But that might just be me...
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my Pan Am helicon is one of the best tubas of any kind I have ever played.
I wish I could play it for more than 20 minutes, after that my left arm and neck go numb due to disc issues in my neck.
kk
I wish I could play it for more than 20 minutes, after that my left arm and neck go numb due to disc issues in my neck.
kk
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Mirafone 187 BBb
1919 Pan American BBb Helicon
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For outdoor concerts that do not have a band shell, I use a Conn 28K, 4 valve sousaphone. They are heavy to carry, but organ like in sound. Just the thing when sound direction control is needed.
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1892 Courtiere (J.W. Pepper Import) Helicon Eb
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So, why did recording bell tubas/sousaphones fall out of favor? It seems to have occurred (as bloke pointed out) somewhere in the 1970s.....
I like them because I don't have to work as hard when playing one
I like them because I don't have to work as hard when playing one
"Even a broken clock is right twice a day".
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Your assessment assumes that tuba players only possess the ability to play one dynamic (and I don't mean "pianissimo").lowbrassmaniac wrote:Maybe because if you're not playing Sousa marches over and over where you need that barrage of potato note bombs coming from the tuba section, some directors preferred a more subtle approach to bass sounds instead of in your face. Also aesthetically more pleasing in a sit down performance were "lap tubas". (If it worked for Germany for a couple hundred years, why not in America)?roweenie wrote:So, why did recording bell tubas/sousaphones fall out of favor? It seems to have occurred (as bloke pointed out) somewhere in the 1970s.....
I like them because I don't have to work as hard when playing one
As for me, I'm would be perfectly content to play mezzo-forte, while next to a group of cylindrical brass who are trying as hard as possible to crack the plaster on the back wall of the concert hall...
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20J works pretty well too.lowbrassmaniac wrote:It's so fun though, to blat on Sousaphones during a Sousa March..
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... with forward facing bells, I might add.roweenie wrote:while next to a group of cylindrical brass who are trying as hard as possible to crack the plaster on the back wall of the concert hall...
(I think we may have had occasion to discuss this before, but ...) the only particular problem I have with forward facing bells is hearing myself. If I could hear myself better, I believe the tonal etc. factors would be distinctly in favor of the bell front configuration, but then if I could walk on water I wouldn't need to buy ferry tickets. I think the problem is worse with my bell front Holton, than my sousaphone.
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I started in Jr. high school on BBb sousaphone in a Wenger chair. High school had bell front Reynolds Contemporas.bloke wrote:The Sousa bands used them "wherever" (in/out-doors), and - well into the 1970's, most school "concert" bands used either sousaphones or bell-front "lap" tubas... Curiously (or not), they sounded quite good, as I recall.
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In high school, we used King 'glass souzys for all the above: concert (indoor or outdoor), field and street. Yes, they are concert instruments. But don't take my word for it: take my director's word for it who lead the school to over 25 years of consecutive "I" ratings at state contest.
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Old School, Baby!!Tubaryan12 wrote:I started in Jr. high school on BBb sousaphone in a Wenger chair. High school had bell front Reynolds Contemporas.bloke wrote:The Sousa bands used them "wherever" (in/out-doors), and - well into the 1970's, most school "concert" bands used either sousaphones or bell-front "lap" tubas... Curiously (or not), they sounded quite good, as I recall.
I asked my mom to buy me a tuba so I could practice at home, she said "shut up and go ride your bike!!"
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And what's wrong with that assumption?roweenie wrote:Your assessment assumes that tuba players only possess the ability to play one dynamic (and I don't mean "pianissimo").
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"Even a broken clock is right twice a day".
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Yes, goes well with plastic tortoise-shell aviator eyeglasses and checked pants - "That 70s Show"? I lived it.....bloke wrote:the venerable O-96
Actually, my first encounter with a BB flat tuba (before that, a Couesnon E flat.....!!!)
"Even a broken clock is right twice a day".
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Yep, feels like it was a thousand years agoValveSlide wrote:What a great pic...
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If you look closely, it actually said "OLD[s]" right over your shoulder.roweenie wrote:Yep, feels like it was a thousand years agoValveSlide wrote:What a great pic...
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Why is the window cracked open??
You'll let the AC out!!
You'll let the AC out!!
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Sorry, back then all the phones were "dumb"...bloke wrote:Where's your "smart" phone...and why isn't that sousaphone torn up...???
As for the horn, why would anyone tear up something they love???
"Even a broken clock is right twice a day".