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Re: proven today - once again

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2017 4:02 pm
by Three Valves
Concert, sure.

But nothing beats a parade!!

Re: proven today - once again

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2017 4:25 pm
by TUbajohn20J
Played my 40K seated in a church orchestra on the stage of a huge, cathedral style sanctuary with one of those massive organs in the background. One note from the 40K resonated throughout the whole building. It did really well. Sousaphones are definitely concert horns.

Re: proven today - once again

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2017 4:41 pm
by roweenie
Agreed.

Re: proven today - once again

Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2017 10:28 pm
by Tubajug
I think it would be awesome to see them play with a set of matching, vintage raincatchers! But that might just be me...

Re: proven today - once again

Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2017 10:32 pm
by ken k
my Pan Am helicon is one of the best tubas of any kind I have ever played.

I wish I could play it for more than 20 minutes, after that my left arm and neck go numb due to disc issues in my neck.

kk

Re: proven today - once again

Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2017 9:41 am
by opus37
For outdoor concerts that do not have a band shell, I use a Conn 28K, 4 valve sousaphone. They are heavy to carry, but organ like in sound. Just the thing when sound direction control is needed.

Re: proven today - once again

Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2017 9:59 am
by roweenie
So, why did recording bell tubas/sousaphones fall out of favor? It seems to have occurred (as bloke pointed out) somewhere in the 1970s.....

I like them because I don't have to work as hard when playing one 8)

Re: proven today - once again

Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2017 10:51 am
by roweenie
lowbrassmaniac wrote:
roweenie wrote:So, why did recording bell tubas/sousaphones fall out of favor? It seems to have occurred (as bloke pointed out) somewhere in the 1970s.....

I like them because I don't have to work as hard when playing one 8)
Maybe because if you're not playing Sousa marches over and over where you need that barrage of potato note bombs coming from the tuba section, some directors preferred a more subtle approach to bass sounds instead of in your face. Also aesthetically more pleasing in a sit down performance were "lap tubas". (If it worked for Germany for a couple hundred years, why not in America)? :lol:
Your assessment assumes that tuba players only possess the ability to play one dynamic (and I don't mean "pianissimo").

As for me, I'm would be perfectly content to play mezzo-forte, while next to a group of cylindrical brass who are trying as hard as possible to crack the plaster on the back wall of the concert hall...

Re: proven today - once again

Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2017 11:46 am
by edsel585960
lowbrassmaniac wrote:It's so fun though, to blat on Sousaphones during a Sousa March..:P
20J works pretty well too. :)

Re: proven today - once again

Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2017 11:53 am
by Donn
roweenie wrote:while next to a group of cylindrical brass who are trying as hard as possible to crack the plaster on the back wall of the concert hall...
... with forward facing bells, I might add.

(I think we may have had occasion to discuss this before, but ...) the only particular problem I have with forward facing bells is hearing myself. If I could hear myself better, I believe the tonal etc. factors would be distinctly in favor of the bell front configuration, but then if I could walk on water I wouldn't need to buy ferry tickets. I think the problem is worse with my bell front Holton, than my sousaphone.

Re: proven today - once again

Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2017 12:20 pm
by Tubaryan12
bloke wrote:The Sousa bands used them "wherever" (in/out-doors), and - well into the 1970's, most school "concert" bands used either sousaphones or bell-front "lap" tubas... Curiously (or not), they sounded quite good, as I recall.
I started in Jr. high school on BBb sousaphone in a Wenger chair. High school had bell front Reynolds Contemporas.

Re: proven today - once again

Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2017 12:31 pm
by iiipopes
In high school, we used King 'glass souzys for all the above: concert (indoor or outdoor), field and street. Yes, they are concert instruments. But don't take my word for it: take my director's word for it who lead the school to over 25 years of consecutive "I" ratings at state contest.

Re: proven today - once again

Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2017 12:39 pm
by Three Valves
Tubaryan12 wrote:
bloke wrote:The Sousa bands used them "wherever" (in/out-doors), and - well into the 1970's, most school "concert" bands used either sousaphones or bell-front "lap" tubas... Curiously (or not), they sounded quite good, as I recall.
I started in Jr. high school on BBb sousaphone in a Wenger chair. High school had bell front Reynolds Contemporas.
Old School, Baby!!

I asked my mom to buy me a tuba so I could practice at home, she said "shut up and go ride your bike!!"

:tuba:

Re: proven today - once again

Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2017 3:38 pm
by Rick Denney
roweenie wrote:Your assessment assumes that tuba players only possess the ability to play one dynamic (and I don't mean "pianissimo").
And what's wrong with that assumption?

Rick "confused" Denney

Re: proven today - once again

Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2017 5:55 pm
by roweenie
Workin' the low C, circa 1976....

Image

Re: proven today - once again

Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2017 6:05 pm
by roweenie
bloke wrote:the venerable O-96 :shock: :!:
Yes, goes well with plastic tortoise-shell aviator eyeglasses and checked pants - "That 70s Show"? I lived it..... :oops:

Actually, my first encounter with a BB flat tuba (before that, a Couesnon E flat.....!!!)

Re: proven today - once again

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2017 12:14 pm
by roweenie
ValveSlide wrote:What a great pic...
Yep, feels like it was a thousand years ago :cry:

Re: proven today - once again

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2017 1:28 pm
by Tom
roweenie wrote:
ValveSlide wrote:What a great pic...
Yep, feels like it was a thousand years ago :cry:
If you look closely, it actually said "OLD[s]" right over your shoulder. :wink: :tuba:

Re: proven today - once again

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2017 2:35 pm
by Three Valves
Why is the window cracked open??

You'll let the AC out!!

Re: proven today - once again

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2017 2:49 pm
by roweenie
bloke wrote:Where's your "smart" phone...and why isn't that sousaphone torn up...???
Sorry, back then all the phones were "dumb"...

Image

As for the horn, why would anyone tear up something they love??? :shock: