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Postby WagnerRing » Wed Mar 01, 2017 10:46 am

For those of you who use a tuba stand for storing the tuba upright, which stand do you prefer and why? Which stand is the best constructed, most stable, and most protective? The most available options seem to be the K&M or the Hercules.

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Re: Opinions Needed On Best Tuba Stand

Postby arpthark » Wed Mar 01, 2017 10:52 am

I have both. The Hercules is better IMO but takes up more room. Feels a bit more sturdy.

The K&M is a little wobbly on larger tubas.
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Re: Opinions Needed On Best Tuba Stand

Postby thevillagetuba » Wed Mar 01, 2017 11:30 am

I use a Hercules stands that I have modified like Roger Lewis did in the following thread:

http://forums.chisham.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=48925

I find that, probably because I lean forward and therefore pit some of my weight on the stand, that these tend to fail for me (as do all of my stock stands in one way or another). With the modification I have had zero problems, though none of my students have had any problems with these stands failing.
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Re: Opinions Needed On Best Tuba Stand

Postby arpthark » Wed Mar 01, 2017 11:33 am

thevillagetuba wrote:I use a Hercules stands that I have modified like Roger Lewis did in the following thread:

http://forums.chisham.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=48925

I find that, probably because I lean forward and therefore pit some of my weight on the stand, that these tend to fail for me (as do all of my stock stands in one way or another). With the modification I have had zero problems, though none of my students have had any problems with these stands failing.


I think that's describing a playing stand and the OP is asking about a storage stand.
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Re: Opinions Needed On Best Tuba Stand

Postby thevillagetuba » Wed Mar 01, 2017 11:38 am

arpthark wrote:
thevillagetuba wrote:I use a Hercules stands that I have modified like Roger Lewis did in the following thread:

http://forums.chisham.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=48925

I find that, probably because I lean forward and therefore pit some of my weight on the stand, that these tend to fail for me (as do all of my stock stands in one way or another). With the modification I have had zero problems, though none of my students have had any problems with these stands failing.


I think that's describing a playing stand and the OP is asking about a storage stand.


You are completely right (I don't know how I misread his post :oops: ). I use Hercules stands for storage, as well. They do take up a bit of space but they are the sturdiest stands I have found for my horns and the ones I am least worried about being knocked over by a pet or unobservant student.
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Re: Opinions Needed On Best Tuba Stand

Postby Three Valves » Wed Mar 01, 2017 12:05 pm

Someone here built a 1/3 size open wood box to put the tuba in...

Those looked really sharp, not like some kind of polio era medical device!!
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Re: Opinions Needed On Best Tuba Stand

Postby acjcf2 » Wed Mar 01, 2017 10:06 pm

Hercules stand, hands down.
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Re: Opinions Needed On Best Tuba Stand

Postby MaryAnn » Thu Mar 02, 2017 11:13 am

I rest my tuba on the floor on its bell, with a cover on it to keep dust off. Asking seriously and not sarcastically, why would someone want a stand?
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Re: Opinions Needed On Best Tuba Stand

Postby PaulMaybery » Thu Mar 02, 2017 11:38 am

Hi Mary Ann.

I think (IMHO) the best reason for the stand is to keep the tuba upright, thus keeping all the water from migrating to the mouthpipe and other more remote crooks (and crannies). I also hate having to continually wipe off the bell flare when the water exits the MP and drips on the bell. (That water can easily eat the lacquer at the bead on the bell if it sits there.) Even when we empty the horn at the end of playing, the warm air inside will continually condense.

Do I put the tuba on the bell? Of course I do and it is the most convenient way to store it.
But ... when I have to do a quick change from F to CC in the orchestra, especially with a piston horn, there is always that ritual of spinning the horn and trying to remove water, and when I'm in a hurry I never seem to get all of it.

There is a stand that I really covet. Alexander von Putcamer uses one in the Berlin Phil.
Kolberg, a German company makes one, but they are terribly expensive. Almost $500.

You simply keep the tuba in normal playing orientation and when you are done, just place it off to the side and ahead of you.
Having 2 would be ideal. The F tuba in one, and the Contra Bass Tuba in the other.

But being in an orchestra with a regular venue means you need not schlepp these back and forth.
Also in whipping that tuba up from being on the bell and giving it the perfunctory spin, I have more than once. bonked the bass trombonist next to me, who just doesn't seem to understand my need for elbow room. They learn after a while.

More recently, I found that those rubber-like dashboard pads when stuck at the right spot on the bottom bow keeps the tuba from slipping. They however do not seem to last very long and get torn up in a week or so. Even so, as convenient as they are, when the weight of the tuba is on your leg for several hours, that is not a good thing. But I use a BBC tuba rest for the heavier more cumbersome tubas.

For a stand in my office, I use one of those cradle type stands. Wessex sells one. Not too heavy to schlepp if you need to.
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Re: Opinions Needed On Best Tuba Stand

Postby acjcf2 » Thu Mar 02, 2017 9:55 pm

Mary Ann, I had my Mack Brass BBb TU200 one month and rested it on the bell (as Tom advised me not to) and it fell over and dented the bell and some slides. Yeah, I use a cradle stand. Most of the damage has been repaired but it sure did not make my day. I use a medium sized roller suitcase to carry my support equipment.
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Re: Opinions Needed On Best Tuba Stand

Postby Polkahero » Thu Mar 02, 2017 11:54 pm

This is the stand I use: http://usa.yamaha.com/product_archive/marching/rm-sht44r/?mode=model
Really heavy duty, discontinued, but still available at some places.
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Re: Opinions Needed On Best Tuba Stand

Postby WagnerRing » Sat Mar 04, 2017 8:21 am

Many thanks for the helpful replies.
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Re: Opinions Needed On Best Tuba Stand

Postby Three Valves » Thu Mar 09, 2017 2:03 pm

MaryAnn wrote:I rest my tuba on the floor on its bell, with a cover on it to keep dust off. Asking seriously and not sarcastically, why would someone want a stand?


I keep mine in a stand to take up less space and prevent it from falling. It looks nice and if I kept it in a case, in the basement, I would take it out less to play it.

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Re: Opinions Needed On Best Tuba Stand

Postby Three Valves » Thu Mar 09, 2017 2:05 pm

Polkahero wrote:This is the stand I use: http://usa.yamaha.com/product_archive/marching/rm-sht44r/?mode=model
Really heavy duty, discontinued, but still available at some places.


And it's a playing stand as well. I've seen these on sale for $99.

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Re: Opinions Needed On Best Tuba Stand

Postby Biggs » Thu Mar 09, 2017 2:27 pm

I have a K&M and it is great. I don't have any huge tubas, but I've seen photos on here of giant recording bell tubas in the K&M, and the owners reported no issues.
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Re: Opinions Needed On Best Tuba Stand

Postby Three Valves » Thu Mar 09, 2017 2:59 pm

arpthark wrote:I have both. The Hercules is better IMO but takes up more room. Feels a bit more sturdy.

The K&M is a little wobbly on larger tubas.


That seems strange because the Hercules LOOKS less stable and holds it higher off the floor.

I use the K@M style now but the Hercules looks easier to place and remove the tuba...

(Bracing gets in the way of mine)
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Re: Opinions Needed On Best Tuba Stand

Postby arpthark » Thu Mar 09, 2017 4:27 pm

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You'd think so by looking at the pix, but the Hercules is very sturdy and the tripod is very stable. Basically uses the weight of the tuba to the stand's advantage, and the fact that the bell and the bottom bow are cradled makes it more secure. I've inadvertently bumped the vacuum (and my body) against it a few times and it's surprisingly stable. Used it for about 8 years with no problems.
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Re: Opinions Needed On Best Tuba Stand

Postby Three Valves » Thu Mar 09, 2017 4:30 pm

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Postby Three Valves » Mon Apr 03, 2017 8:32 am

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Re: Opinions Needed On Best Tuba Stand

Postby WagnerRing » Mon Apr 03, 2017 8:35 pm

How about "tuba pallet" type stands? This design seems space efficient and allows storing the tuba bell down, while limiting risk for accidental damage from tipping over. Anyone using a tuba pallet for storage? For example the tuba pallet from BBC?

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