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Anybody played one at length? Your thoughts?
I don't' get along with rotary valves usually and this seems to be the only piston model on the market, but not readily available to try. Just trying to find out more.
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I did play one a few years back but was not able to make a side by side comparison. The G&P was a good Cimbasso. I would not say it was particularly great, but it was good and if you prefer pistons, well then it is probably what you will need to get. I prefer pistons myself but am extremely happy with the Wessex with 5 rotary valves, all RH. Mine has superb rotarys: smooth, quiet and fast. I also was more impressed with the Wessex as are several other players who think the same that it is perhaps as fine a cimbasso that is out on the market.
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If you were dead set on pistons, I'm sure a good tech could mate a piston section to a Wessex. It would probably still be considerably cheaper than the G and P after all was said and done.
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I've sorta walked away from my idea of replacing the annoying-to-me Jinbao rotors/linkage (heavy/clanking) on my cimbasso with pistons, and (if I end up doing something) I'll probably go to Meinlschmidt and purchase satisfactory rotors/linkage. (Meinlschmidt has already - at my request - sent me their rotor porting footprint, for my comparison.) JP doesn't make anything rotary that's .728" bore, so German craftsmanship is really the only answer.
Of what little I've heard of the Wessex, I'm just not impressed with the sound. I'm wondering if anybody has had any experience with the smaller Cerveny F cimbasso- model 576? A local dealer is going to get a price quote for me, but there may be a long wait for one (I want to use it for 4th or 5th trombone parts in a college jazz band).
To my ears, the G & P comes across great sounding on what few Youtube clips there are out there. But those are close to 10 grand, aren't they?
I really liked the ones I've played. I've had the chance to play a few at the Trade show in Frankfurt and also visited the workshop in Milan a few years back. They make really nice instruments, in my opinion! The gauge of the G & P is a bit bigger than my Haag and it took me a little while to start finding the core, but that's just a small matter of adjustment. I played a Wessex cimbasso at the Frankfurt fair as well and I don't think it even comes close...the G & P is hand built by master craftsmen and still has a relatively reasonable price tag...when/if-ever I get a second cimbasso, I'll go for the G & P!
Just as an FYI (and you may already know), your videos are being used by another JinBao (same maker as Wessex) seller to sell their stuff.
The G&P F cimbasso I have played for many years in the TCO is a fine instrument. Its large bore (c .787 I think) gives a slightly more tubaish sound than some of the other makers, but it is a well built, responsive horn. It is quite free blowing and I prefer it to the other cimbassi I have played. I like it in every way over the Chinese copy...although I only played the copy for a half hour or so. I have not tried the rotor version but I suspect it is also a fine instrument.
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