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POLL: 11/16" bore C tubas (troll/trigger/fake news)

Postby bloke » Sun Mar 19, 2017 8:26 pm

Poll - ONLY, please, for those who have played several of each of these:

- CB-50/G-50
- Conn 52J/54J/56J
- Kanstul 90-S
- Eastman EBC632
- King BBb-to-CC cut-downs with various bells
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Re: POLL: 11/16" bore C tubas (troll/trigger/fake news)

Postby Ken Herrick » Sun Mar 19, 2017 11:15 pm

Over three hours without a reply. That must mean that with this, once again, the shark has been jumped and the board has been trumped.
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Re: POLL: 11/16" bore C tubas (troll/trigger/fake news)

Postby bloke » Mon Mar 20, 2017 8:00 am

Ken Herrick wrote:Over three hours without a reply. That must mean that with this, once again, the shark has been jumped and the board has been trumped.


12 poll responses (plus your post) in 11 hours - even with the given caption
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Re: POLL: 11/16" bore C tubas (troll/trigger/fake news)

Postby Billy M. » Tue Mar 21, 2017 7:19 pm

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Re: POLL: 11/16" bore C tubas (troll/trigger/fake news)

Postby Cameron Gates » Tue Mar 21, 2017 8:59 pm

I voted yes, although "obsolete" seems a little strong.

- CB50/G-50 - good luck finding one in decent cosmetic shape
- Conn 52J/54J/56J - obsolete from serial number 1
- Kanstul 90-S - I hear you can by parts for these at Napa
- Eastman EBC632
- King BBb-to-CC cut-downs with various bells - have to admit only playing one of these in the past. Not very many around.
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Re: POLL: 11/16" bore C tubas (troll/trigger/fake news)

Postby 58mark » Tue Mar 21, 2017 9:54 pm

I'm just glad I don't have a Conn 56J I'm trying to sell.
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Re: POLL: 11/16" bore C tubas (troll/trigger/fake news)

Postby bloke » Tue Mar 21, 2017 11:20 pm

I didn't say anything other than to ~ask~ whether the statement is true or false. :|
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Re: POLL: 11/16" bore C tubas (troll/trigger/fake news)

Postby iiipopes » Tue Mar 21, 2017 11:50 pm

Conn screwed up when they did not follow Matt's prototypes, changing parts to a dollar-cost-averaging accountants run the show.

Sam Gnagny makes great instruments. If I was told to play a 11/16" - 17.5mm CC instrument, I would be saving my money for one of his conversions.

But the poll did not indicate all the other instruments that players may have played in comparison to the better known 11/16 bore instruments.

The poll also did not indicate the "effective bore," or which of these instruments had a short leadpipe, so that they were in effect actually similar in response characteristics to instruments, compared to the typical German-style rotor instrument, where the leadpipe is much longer, and therefore if measured at the same point from the receiver as where the short lead pipe typical 11/16 instruments enters the valve block, may very well be similar to the inside diameter of the lead pipe of the longer lead pipe tubas at that point. I believe that upon being able to run scopes and calipers, there will be more similarity than differences.

So - my view - and everyone else's mileage will vary - this thread is a non-question. Effective bore comparing tubas must be measured from a common point so-many-inches from the receiver, which may or may not include transition through the valve block, or to say it another way: what is the internal diameter of the tubing at "X" number of inches from the receiver.

Only when that particular specification is determined, even with different leadpipes for essentially the same tuba, as in the Miraphone 1291/1292, can the topic of this thread even begin to be a topic of intelligent discussion.
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Re: POLL: 11/16" bore C tubas (troll/trigger/fake news)

Postby bloke » Tue Mar 21, 2017 11:58 pm

So - my view - and everyone else's mileage will vary - this thread is a non-question.


"squatty wide-pancake-bell CC tubas with 11/16" bore valvesets that all - more or less - were inspired by King"
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