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Postby kathott » Thu Apr 06, 2017 11:40 pm

I recently learned of the old "Dr. Young" mouthpiece/s. I think that I already have most design concepts covered in my mouthpiece collection, but one more won't hurt. Would anyone have one to part with? Thanks.
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Re: mouthpiece "Dr. Young"

Postby tubapix » Fri Apr 07, 2017 1:49 pm

Wessex has one on their sight but apparently not available? Maybe a call to them could help you.
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Re: mouthpiece "Dr. Young"

Postby Wyvern » Sun Apr 09, 2017 1:06 pm

Wessex Tubas does have the Young tuba mouthpiece in stock
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Postby lowbrassmaniac » Sun Apr 09, 2017 2:54 pm

Wyvern wrote:Wessex Tubas does have the Young tuba mouthpiece in stock

Hi Jonathan...would it be possible to put up the specs of these on your site?
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Re: mouthpiece "Dr. Young"

Postby Wyvern » Sun Apr 09, 2017 4:19 pm

I have just added to website page - http://www.wessex-tubas.com/shop/access ... /young-1r/
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Re: mouthpiece "Dr. Young"

Postby lowbrassmaniac » Sun Apr 09, 2017 6:24 pm

Wow that thing is gigantic..dang! The largest inner rim diameter I've seen before.
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Re: mouthpiece "Dr. Young"

Postby bloke » Tue Apr 11, 2017 9:47 pm

It appears that current "Dr. Young" mouthpieces are quite conservative, regarding their dimensions, compared to the USA-made versions (by Reynolds) of the past.

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Re: mouthpiece "Dr. Young"

Postby Wyvern » Wed Apr 12, 2017 5:50 am

bloke wrote:It appears that current "Dr. Young" mouthpieces are quite conservative, regarding their dimensions, compared to the USA-made versions (by Reynolds) of the past.

I don't know if the Reynolds version was exactly how Dr. Young wanted. Wessex have done some further development with Dr.Young on the new Wessex YOUNG tuba mouthpiece.

We have also put into production a Young euphonium mouthpiece which has never been available before.
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Re: mouthpiece "Dr. Young"

Postby bloke » Wed Apr 12, 2017 9:20 am

We don't know much of anything, do we...? yet we post.

Some seem to consider the Reynolds version to have some collector value.
Some value, I suppose, is value.
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Re: mouthpiece "Dr. Young"

Postby Three Valves » Wed Apr 12, 2017 9:25 am

bloke wrote:We don't know much of anything, do we...? yet we post.



It never stopped me!!

Is this the same Dr Young that got dragged off that plane recently??
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Re: mouthpiece "Dr. Young"

Postby bloke » Wed Apr 12, 2017 10:19 am

Three Valves wrote:
bloke wrote:We don't know much of anything, do we...? yet we post.



It never stopped me!!

Is this the same Dr Young that got dragged off that plane recently??


hun-uhh...
You're thinking of an actor named Young who played a doctor IN drag...

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Though not orange, seen here is the top of the same pantsuit that was recently candidate-worn.
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Re: mouthpiece "Dr. Young"

Postby KiltieTuba » Wed Apr 12, 2017 12:41 pm

I had an email conversation with Dr. Young a while back about his mouthpiece design - he said the Reynolds version was not what he intended. I bought a newer version of his from him and use it frequently.
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Re: mouthpiece "Dr. Young"

Postby hrender » Wed Apr 12, 2017 4:37 pm

Kiltie -- how would you describe the sound&response of the newer Dr. Young mp?
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Re: mouthpiece "Dr. Young"

Postby KiltieTuba » Wed Apr 12, 2017 9:22 pm

hrender wrote:Kiltie -- how would you describe the sound&response of the newer Dr. Young mp?


I haven't played the Reynolds or Wessex version, so I can't really say.

Here's the best I can do:
A long time ago, in Pennsylvania on my way back from Rhode Island (I bought a Conn 46K), I stopped by at Harv's Happy Horns and Harvey got to play the Dr. Young mouthpiece:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMCDvnWd8I8

My father summed it up pretty well at the end.
I think given how little is actually different on this mouthpiece - it is a funnel - it seems to capture all the stuff you're doing with your embouchure, it's in the video.

I'd be curious to hear others play on this to get a better idea.
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Re: mouthpiece "Dr. Young"

Postby PaulMaybery » Thu Apr 13, 2017 1:09 am

I do have a Reynolds "Dr.Young" It actually worked rather well on the BMB CC 6/4 BAT. (Got it for 5 bucks at a Brass Armadillo Antigue store in Des Moines many years ago) With the dimensions of the piece, it does offer a great deal of fundamental, hence the compatability with the BAT. The BMB is already designed to play at a relatively high pitch, so the long shank and cup really did not pull the pitch below standard A=440. I do recall something from Fred about it not really being what he intended. So Kiltie, I think you are on to something here. Wessex has a relationship with Fred and so I would tend to think that the current Wessex version of the "Dr. Young" is more than likely what he really wanted. Maybe Jonathan call fill us it a bit more.
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Re: mouthpiece "Dr. Young"

Postby Dan Bradley » Thu Apr 13, 2017 2:41 pm

I played one of the Reynolds ones years ago. It stuck out so far that the pitch was about 1/2 step flat. The entire thing seemed acoustically silly. Other people have enjoyed these mouthpieces, though, so who knows!
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Re: mouthpiece "Dr. Young"

Postby bort » Thu Apr 13, 2017 3:46 pm

Paul let me try is Dr. Young mouthpiece a while ago. I played about 30 seconds on it before politely handing it back and saying "too big." It's not to say that I couldn't get used to it over time, but it's just a lot different than anything else.

Then again, look at the tubas that Dr. Young has designed -- also unusual and not particularly desirable for most of us, even if there are characteristics that are improved or desirable about them.
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Re: mouthpiece "Dr. Young"

Postby KiltieTuba » Fri Apr 14, 2017 1:39 pm

bort wrote:Paul let me try is Dr. Young mouthpiece a while ago. I played about 30 seconds on it before politely handing it back and saying "too big." It's not to say that I couldn't get used to it over time, but it's just a lot different than anything else.

Then again, look at the tubas that Dr. Young has designed -- also unusual and not particularly desirable for most of us, even if there are characteristics that are improved or desirable about them.


Don't most of us want an in tune tubas without a bunch of slide pulling or lipping? Those are the tubas Dr. Young has had made.
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Re: mouthpiece "Dr. Young"

Postby bort » Fri Apr 14, 2017 2:06 pm

KiltieTuba wrote:Don't most of us want an in tune tubas without a bunch of slide pulling or lipping? Those are the tubas Dr. Young has had made.


Yes, but most of us want it to look like a normal tuba.

There are always innovators who push the boundary and contrive unique solutions to problems. But I'm guessing that Fred's tubas will end up like many others, ideas that never caught on and will secure their own places in tuba-making history. I'm not saying anything negative about his work or his stuff, it's neat... but not really intended for mass production.
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Re: mouthpiece "Dr. Young"

Postby Wyvern » Fri Apr 14, 2017 3:02 pm

I have played Dr.Young's tubas. He has done extensive development and they are designed to have excellent intonation across the range and this they achieve. The biggest problem is the extra weight created by the extra valves and tubing - as well as having to learn the unique fingering. It is for those reasons Wessex has not considered making.
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