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Postby Jay Bertolet » Fri Apr 14, 2017 11:17 am

Hey guys, I have a question for you:

My Altieri gig bag for my Nirschl York Copy is wearing out finally. Not bad for a case over 20 years old and not even made for the Nirschl (I originally bought that case for a Cerveny 601). In preparing to buy a new gig bag for the horn, I am considering other options. One option I have always liked is a real leather bag. I know it will be heavier and I expect to deal with that if I can find one. However, finding one is the problem. With Chronkite retiring and the uncertainty of the new owner providing leather tuba bags (I contacted Horn Guys and they told me to contact them again near the end of the year and they might have more answers), I'm left with no other choices that I'm aware of. Is anyone else doing these leather gig bags for tuba? If you have any info, it would be most welcome!
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Re: Leather Gig Bags

Postby bloke » Fri Apr 14, 2017 11:25 am

I don't know that I'd put a silver plated instrument in a leather bag, but - if a lacquer finish - sure, leather bags are snazzy (yet require care, to keep them looking nice).

Of course, Cronkhite is done, so (if you view the available choices as do I) your choices are lesser bags made of premium materials.
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Re: Leather Gig Bags

Postby Rick F » Fri Apr 14, 2017 11:50 am

I was going to say the same thing about a silver horn in leather bag. I have a Cronkhite leather gig bag for my Yamaha 641S. It would show tarnish pretty quickly. The thing I did to control this was make a sack of Pacific Silver cloth with a draw string to put the horn in first. This worked, but extra effort in putting the horn away. Lacquer finished horn would be fine in a leather gig bag however. I assume it's the chemical used in the tanning process of leather that causes this but not positive.
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Re: Leather Gig Bags

Postby Mark Finley » Fri Apr 14, 2017 12:04 pm

it's not leather, but I'm 99% sure this is the same bag I keep my 601 in. It might be a good bag for a good deal for you
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Re: Leather Gig Bags

Postby bloke » Fri Apr 14, 2017 12:25 pm

I suspect the sulfides in liming processes - which are part of tanning processes.

Liming
Main article: Liming (leather processing)

wiki wrote:After soaking, the hides and skins are taken for liming: treatment with milk of lime (a basic agent) that may involve the addition of "sharpening agents" (disulfide reducing agents) such as sodium sulfide, cyanides, amines, etc. The objectives of this operation are mainly to:

Remove the hair and other keratinous matter
Remove some of the interfibrillary soluble proteins such as mucins
Swell up and split up the fibres to the desired extent
Remove the natural grease and fats to some extent
Bring the collagen in the hide to a proper condition for satisfactory tannage


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Re: Leather Gig Bags

Postby Jess Haney » Fri Apr 21, 2017 11:44 pm

I have both of my horns in leather Cronkhite bags and both have not tarnished in several years. But my climate has low humidity.
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